The Turblown Turbo System Differences
12-19-2011, 05:13 PM
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Straight Garrett T3 BB GT35R. I am playing around with different sizes, packages etc. I am currently working on a Tial 1.03 version, and a Comp turbo oil-less system.
Obviously this requires a completely new motor mount bracket.
Not sure exactly on pricing yet, but I am figuring $2000~ish for the manifold, down-pipe and motor mount..
Wow that would be fantastic!!..... I bought my GReddy kit with 100% intent of waiting for a larger turbo option (3071, 3076 or GT35). I'm assuming this would easily fit the GReddy hard piping?
I'm not interested in a top mount, I love this idea though.+1 I am also not interested in converting to a top mount now but still want to hit that 350+ whp mark and I'll be convocating from University this spring too...$$$$
Turblown making a low mount system. Seems like a done deal. Great for California and I always felt that it's pointless to buy greddys kit when more than half of it gets replaced.
On a sidenote, all of you with boosted rx8s, was it really worth the money you dumped in it for FI?
On a sidenote, all of you with boosted rx8s, was it really worth the money you dumped in it for FI?
I replaced nothing.... stock GReddy with the simple mods done and MM tunes... Was it worth it... I absolutely love this car and double that with the turbo... only complaint I have is how undersized the stock GReddy turbo is... Other than that I have experienced zero problems @ about 7k miles on the turbo. Plus the amount of support available from other members with the GReddy is a huge bonus and was a great asset during install.
The way I usually do things is do it right the first time so no headaches down the road. Yeah ungraded turbo, I also don't like how the manifold cracks easily. It'll be great to see a much better manifold made from turblown. Better couplers and lines. Garrett IC core and having to buy aem intake with greddy sucks, everything adds up =( lol. That would be my ideal kit. But with a fresh rebuilt motor I want to see 100k miles with a mix of street and track driving. But haven't seen it done so I'm just waiting to see if development ever achieves that
Most guys already run upgraded couplers with the Older GReddy kits... correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the newer GReddy kits (which relocated the Jet Air hose connection to the hard pipe just upstream of the TB) comes with better couplers?
Also I don't know why you think the stock greddy IC needs to be replaced with a Garrett core... definitely not with a stock greddy sized turbo (including BNR upgraded)?
The AEM intake I agree is a great mod; as are most of what you listed above but at the same time they are not necessities.
12-19-2011, 06:25 PM
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12-19-2011, 10:28 PM
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I guess I was trying to understand the flow of air...I know MM says it works but I cant help but think...Isn't the hot air coming off the radiator flowing through the intercooler? So the vent in the hood only allows the air to escape the engine bay not enter it.
12-19-2011, 10:54 PM
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hadn't seen it in person, but it looked like there may have been a tray under it with a forced cold air feed, he would have to confirm
I believe Knightsport did something similar in addition to also providing a more traditional v-mount setup in some purpose built swaps they did
they also have a new kit that appears to maybe relocate the radiator in the v-mount position for non-fi cars as well, it implies this in the name and extremely basic general description, but I have never seen any details or other info that fully explains the kit
http://www.knightsports.co.jp/blog/R...P/post_76.html
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I believe Knightsport did something similar in addition to also providing a more traditional v-mount setup in some purpose built swaps they did
they also have a new kit that appears to maybe relocate the radiator in the v-mount position for non-fi cars as well, it implies this in the name and extremely basic general description, but I have never seen any details or other info that fully explains the kit
http://www.knightsports.co.jp/blog/R...P/post_76.html
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12-19-2011, 11:12 PM
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6500 is the price of the tier 1 kit(needs an ecu and will make 330rwhp, with potential for 400rwhp with add ons). I figure the low mount will be about the same. You can however purchase just the dp, and manifold combo and make the rest yourself if you like.
Someone else asked if the low mount would work for a greddy upgrade(use greddy intake, fmic etc) and the answer is yes will small modifications.
Someone else asked if the low mount would work for a greddy upgrade(use greddy intake, fmic etc) and the answer is yes will small modifications.
I was referring to the premix vs omp. But what I have read before, premixing is better because the oil injectors cant cover the entire surface. But that discussion is for another thread.
On your site you have $6500 listed as the price for the kit. What is the cost of the "Tier 1" kit you mentioned? I am looking for a introductory level kit.
Thanks,
Joe
On your site you have $6500 listed as the price for the kit. What is the cost of the "Tier 1" kit you mentioned? I am looking for a introductory level kit.
Thanks,
Joe
12-19-2011, 11:19 PM
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Thanks 9k but no... 
I've seen a similar pic but it still does not clarify where the positive airflow is. I'm inclind to think that air is leaving out of the engine bay through the hood which means the IC is getting hot engine bay air. Not saying this is not working cause it appears to be just trying to understand.
Now if he has the radiator at an angle like the pic Team supplied then this would make more sense I would think...
I've seen a similar pic but it still does not clarify where the positive airflow is. I'm inclind to think that air is leaving out of the engine bay through the hood which means the IC is getting hot engine bay air. Not saying this is not working cause it appears to be just trying to understand.
Now if he has the radiator at an angle like the pic Team supplied then this would make more sense I would think...
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12-19-2011, 11:34 PM
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someone need to translate this http://www.knightsports.co.jp/blog/R...P/post_76.html
12-19-2011, 11:40 PM
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I like this setup I wouldn't mind having it on mine later on. But I this setup would work because of the air flow being force throughout the intercooler giving it fresher and cooler air than the front mount.
12-20-2011, 12:29 AM
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someone need to translate this http://www.knightsports.co.jp/blog/R...P/post_76.html
The cooling effect of the more genuine layout.
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12-20-2011, 12:19 PM
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i see the tray under MM's intercooler and I think i know how he is feeding it cool air.
I may be doing the same thing. The front support bar can be reduced to 1/2 its oridginal size and then the front grill can be opened up. This provides a clear path of air from the front grill. the details that he did --i am not sure off. I dont think there would be much pressure at the IC front?, But it must be enough.
I bet he has his engine radiator air diverted in another way than oem? But maybe not?
If not I do wonder about the air pressure in the engine bay or maybe the IC is actually pretty much sealed from the engine bay once the hood is down?
It is a nice set up.
Where is his turbo air intake?
I may be doing the same thing. The front support bar can be reduced to 1/2 its oridginal size and then the front grill can be opened up. This provides a clear path of air from the front grill. the details that he did --i am not sure off. I dont think there would be much pressure at the IC front?, But it must be enough.
I bet he has his engine radiator air diverted in another way than oem? But maybe not?
If not I do wonder about the air pressure in the engine bay or maybe the IC is actually pretty much sealed from the engine bay once the hood is down?
It is a nice set up.
Where is his turbo air intake?
12-20-2011, 06:06 PM
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Thanks,
Joe
12-20-2011, 06:13 PM
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Its best to tell me how much power you are looking for, driving style, etc and I will set you up with the best possible combo. It might be easier/faster to just start emailing me direct; turblown@gmail.com
On a side note, I looked again there is NO way to fit a nice top mount turbo manifold with the OMP. If you want to run the OMP you must by a low mount turbo system.
12-20-2011, 06:38 PM
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People want to keep their OMP, you need to offer low mount and top mount to your customers.
12-20-2011, 06:54 PM
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It comes with a Garrett Journal bearing GT35R. Prices don't change from To4E(57mm) to To4R(66mm turbo). To4E is the smallest I would recommend to use on the top mount, and a To4R is going to require a return style fuel system to use its power potential(500+rwhp). Obviously we can go bigger, and have done it, but it will add substantial cost.
Thanks,
Joe