With the TSI engine management, what has been changed. Timing as well as AFR?

Also, Im not a FI genious, what is the TSI solenoid? Whats the purpose?

It'd be great if someone could give a breakdown of the advantages of the parts.

 

if I'm not mistaken the TSI ECU (Rick Shaw unit) has the ability to not just control the ECU but has auxilary controlling ability as well...for the SFR turbo that would be a boost controller...to control this remotely you need a solenoid...the TSI can control this the solenoid/boost with ease

the TSI unit is awesome...but damn expensive...this is one case expensive equals the best

 

truemagellan your right, that TSI ECU is a damn good unit, and does have more options than the Greddy unit . Also I'am sure the guys at SFR/SSR are trying to keep the pricing very competitive, but of course we have to compare what we are getting here and it's potential...

 

Also, isn't the Greddy E-01 unit both a E manage (A/F ratios, Timing, etc) & boost controller ? That might be a unit worth considering.

 

Quick update, as some of you guys know I have been interested in both the TC and the SC for the 8.. well since I reported about the SFR/SSR putting out 292 at the wheels I figured I would call for an update on the Supercharger..When I asked for update they told me that they just finished the dynos and were very pleased.. But when I told them that SFR/SSR reported 292 hp at the wheels they said ( qoute) wow , no ******* way...... I don't know if that means that they are not even close, because they never said anything when I mentioned about Greddy's power... SSF/SSR may be on to something, we'll see soon.

 

The E-01 is an add on to the E-Manage. It's a boost controller and a gui front end for the e-manage so you can do tuning w/o a laptop.

 

hmm interesting do you have more info on the E-01?

 

Are you referring to Pettit's setup?

 

or HKS?

 

Yes, plus it gives you multiple digital and analog inputs and outputs to control lots of other stuff.

You can control ignition timing, fuel injectors, airflow signal and boost right out of the box.
With the extra channels you can monitor A/F, control nitrous solenoids, the SDAIS and anything else you can think of.

Well, you won't get that with either kit out of the box.
Your kit looks like a great custom-fabbed system, but it also looks "unfinished".
The Greedy is entirely hidden, so it doesn't look lke anything.

Both kits will need a bunch of finishing to look show-ready.

 

Well the pictures that have been posted of our turbo kit aren't actually finished, on monday we will post up all new pics etc.

 

Cool. I'm looking forward to it.

 

Davefzr, truemagellen, I don't want to say right now till I see what they are putting out, but one of you are right.........

 

Great thankx True haha.. at least if I was the only one posted we would have known jk...

I bet it's Pettit though.. HKS seems like they are pretty far off with their kit.

 

hmm sounds like petitt racing to me too. finally some updates on them. They probably hit their intended number. 50+whp

 

If any of you guys want a turbo kit w/ the e-manage and you are in the San Diego area, I will personally pay for the tuning so we can have the e-manage as a pre-tuned option as well.

 

True enough... Just personally I always get it in the *** when I do something like that (i.e. some major breaks and no more warranty). But like I said.. I understand completely...


Same here... autocrossing and the drag strip is great for some, but me... I've seen daily drivers at the drag strip all modded up. They do the inital burnout to warm up their tires... roll up to the line... reving, waiting for the light... light changes and "KERCHUNK" the car dies. Locked the rearend up. Yup... he's gong to have fun getting home. The track? Not in my daily driver! As far as mods go...at least rims/tires would be something I'd do. The bodykit is an unknown. Stereo mods goes without saying.


Exactly. Like what Speed-ER Doc says about the Cobra he bought to replace his totalled 8... that power when you mash the pedal is fun and addictive. handling... if you don't track it, past a certain point, you'll hardly notice or be able to use it.

The SSR/SFR kit is "relatively" a monster kit. Offering the biggest bang for now and that may be possible without internal mods.

Anyway... this kit isn't for everyone. It looks like a good option for you. For others that just want more grunt for daily driving, then GReddy works better for them. When Hymee, RP, Petite and other S/C kits hit the market, we'll see how things fair again then...

 

Sorry I missed that one.

 

Actually this kit is aimed for daily drivers, just because it produces more power then all of the other forms of F/I out there, doesen't make it less reliable. In fact reliability is a big concern with us, which is why we've included so many additional components to make this kit as reliable as possible. We went as far as including a stainless coolant line, battery relocation kit, insulation, and heatwrap all for reliability conerns, not to mention a life-time manufacturers warranty (does greddy, RP, or Petite offer that?). Just because the price is higher then the greddy doesen't make it less practical, haven't you ever heard of the saying "you get what you pay for"?

 

If that was even usually true then paying $5k or so for a PRS guitar in Japan that you can get for $1,500-2k in the US would be somehow be better... or a better example would be to say that the RE Amemiya cat-back is superior to the Racing Beat or Borla because it is more expensive (and JDM).

Now that being said... I never said your kit was unreliable just because it puts out more power.

As far as practicality goes... that's an individual thing... you can't say that it is based on what you've said (price, quality, parts, etc.). I am just interested in a few more ponies for daily driving, and at low cost. So this kit wouldn't be for me. That doesn't make it bad or "crap"... just not the right product for my needs. Other people here... they'll build their 8 into show cars, or they want to have the fastest 8 or just be faster than your average 350Z or S2000. This kit is for those people.

As far as Hymee and RP go... I can't say what their warranties will be like... they don't have a product out on the market yet... so I'd watch what I'm assuming there if I was you. I'm willing to bet their warranties will be long if not lifetime as well.

To sum it up... there is nothing to defend here. Your kit is built with TLC and high-end parts. It's target audience is different than GReddy and there is just simply a difference economy of scale going on here. And that's fine because we are all different with different tastes. I just gave my opinion on the kit, pricing, etc. with regards to what I like and my needs. It's not the thing for me, but it might be for several other members here. To each his own... :p

 

My favorite part of the SFR web site about the turbo kit: "Attnetion to detail is what makes the Speed force Racing kit superior to anythng else being offered for the fourth gen RX-8."

They misspelled "attention" (amongst many other words).

 

They still havent fixed that? It's been brought up many times before. I dont think I have heard a better oxymoron.

 

Check it.Its fixed.

 

Actually, a couple of spelling errors on the web page makes me think that these guys are designing turbo kits and not into marketing and web design, which comforts me at least.

I'm always aware of manufacturers with a super sleek brochure, only to find out they spent more time on the ad campaign than they did on their product.

 

Yes, but you left "anything" misspelled in that same sentence. Seriously - spelling is about attention to detail, too. :D Sorry, just messing with you guys. Your turbo kit makes me tingle and maybe just maybe I can have the power in my RX8 like I had in my Evo8 using your kit.