View Poll Results: Which to use for hot side pipes? Stainless or Aluminized?
Stainless - I don't care about higher price I want it to be nice and shiny.
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Aluminized - Keep the costs low. As long as it reasonably clean and runs well I am in
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Update:
On Thursday, the car stalled at a traffic light. just stopped while idling, and i couldn't get it started again.
Had to get it towed home.
Pulled the plugs, and while the second rotor was ok (more or less) the plugs on the first rotor (both leading and trailing) were a mess.
the gaps HUGE, the outside terminals (the external contact where the wires are sitting on), were covered with acidic green residue...
Also inspecting coils, I found the one of the coils had a really distinct white spot on it (the second from the front) is it the 1rst rotor trailing, if I am not mistaken?
I had a spare coil so I replaced it, but plugs I had to order, and they are not yet delivered. so I am waiting... and waiting...
meanwhile I had to get to work somehow, so i paid 30 bucks to renew the registration on my bike, and rode it to work.
without being used to it, rifing a crotch rocket for 40 miles is a pain in the ***... thank god a guy i work with wanted to trade for the night, so he let me take his 325i BMW while I let him take my bike
...Cute car, but it is sooo slow. I can't wait for the plugs to arrive.
Devin, thanks man for taking a trip over on saturday to keep me company while I was reworking the dump pipe. And thanks for the pizza Sorry you didn't get to drive. Next time will be better luck. You are welcome to come by anytime, brother.
On Thursday, the car stalled at a traffic light. just stopped while idling, and i couldn't get it started again.
Had to get it towed home.
Pulled the plugs, and while the second rotor was ok (more or less) the plugs on the first rotor (both leading and trailing) were a mess.
the gaps HUGE, the outside terminals (the external contact where the wires are sitting on), were covered with acidic green residue...
Also inspecting coils, I found the one of the coils had a really distinct white spot on it (the second from the front) is it the 1rst rotor trailing, if I am not mistaken?
I had a spare coil so I replaced it, but plugs I had to order, and they are not yet delivered. so I am waiting... and waiting...
meanwhile I had to get to work somehow, so i paid 30 bucks to renew the registration on my bike, and rode it to work.
without being used to it, rifing a crotch rocket for 40 miles is a pain in the ***... thank god a guy i work with wanted to trade for the night, so he let me take his 325i BMW while I let him take my bike
...Cute car, but it is sooo slow. I can't wait for the plugs to arrive.
Devin, thanks man for taking a trip over on saturday to keep me company while I was reworking the dump pipe. And thanks for the pizza Sorry you didn't get to drive. Next time will be better luck. You are welcome to come by anytime, brother.
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Strange thing is that I found it on the front rotor only. the plugs on the other rotor were in a great shape. no buildup on the terminals, no excessive carbon on the electrodes, nothing out of the ordinary...
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IIRC - alneilsen mentioned something about having an engine replaced because of coolant in the rotor housing. I thought this might be similar and the coolant might have leaked out the plug hole and onto the terminal? It was just a thought...
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I had green oxidation on mine. Stemmed from not putting on the plug wires correctly (the boot should slide on far enough cover all of the ridges on the spark plug).
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i WISH i would have known about this about a year and a half ago whenever i got rid of my 8 for a speed6...i love the car but i've found that it's got its problems being a 1st year production run just as my 04 8 did...i hope to get back into an 8 in the next few years whenever schooling is finished up and you will have my business!!! great job and quality of everything, and i hope you figure out all your problems
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This is true. Coolant was leaking into the rear rotor housing. This caused it to sputter for a minute or two when starting it up in the morning. It would run fine the rest of the day. Engine was replaced. I never pulled out the plugs so I can't say if they looked like yours or not.
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You sneaky jerk...going FI I see! Well I have to say that using Rotors setup is one I contemplated myself. Very good choice my friend. Just make sure after the prototype is complete and your install gets completed that you give me a ride...hehehe!
BTW, I'm moving to Miami so I will be able to hang out with the DSR people more often I think.
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Looking at it, it does not seem water would be a problem and you could use something like Volant Pre-Filter as a cover over the air filter to help block water and dirt.
I'm curious about the "impact resistance" of this turbo in it's location. The cats on the RX-8 have been known to get banged up a bit as its the lowest point on the car.
Is the location so that other parts of the car, during an underside impact, will hit first and before hitting the turbo?
Is there any type of plate you are thinking of creating to protect it?
I'm curious about the "impact resistance" of this turbo in it's location. The cats on the RX-8 have been known to get banged up a bit as its the lowest point on the car.
Is the location so that other parts of the car, during an underside impact, will hit first and before hitting the turbo?
Is there any type of plate you are thinking of creating to protect it?
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Looking at it, it does not seem water would be a problem and you could use something like Volant Pre-Filter as a cover over the air filter to help block water and dirt.
I'm curious about the "impact resistance" of this turbo in it's location. The cats on the RX-8 have been known to get banged up a bit as its the lowest point on the car.
Is the location so that other parts of the car, during an underside impact, will hit first and before hitting the turbo?
Is there any type of plate you are thinking of creating to protect it?
I'm curious about the "impact resistance" of this turbo in it's location. The cats on the RX-8 have been known to get banged up a bit as its the lowest point on the car.
Is the location so that other parts of the car, during an underside impact, will hit first and before hitting the turbo?
Is there any type of plate you are thinking of creating to protect it?
On this particular prototype, the low points of the system are the compressor outlet and the waist gate.
turbo itself is sitting deep inside the well, and is not much exposed. the actual manifold runner is lower than the turbo, and should take the impact of let's say rolling over a high speed bump, rather than the turbo.
for the production builds the waistgate will be taken further back, and upwards from where it is currently, so that i can completely hide it. (there is is still enough room for that)
The compressor outlet will most likely be modified, and instead of pointing down, will be turned around and point upward and forward, thus completely deleting the issue of clearance.
I personally had never even once scraped the cat, ever. and the issue of it hitting something in my opinion is greatly exaggerated. Just don't try to drive over large speed-bumps at excessive speeds, and you'll be fine
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Possibly.
On this particular prototype, the low points of the system are the compressor outlet and the waist gate.
turbo itself is sitting deep inside the well, and is not much exposed. the actual manifold runner is lower than the turbo, and should take the impact of let's say rolling over a high speed bump, rather than the turbo.
for the production builds the waistgate will be taken further back, and upwards from where it is currently, so that i can completely hide it. (there is is still enough room for that)
The compressor outlet will most likely be modified, and instead of pointing down, will be turned around and point upward and forward, thus completely deleting the issue of clearance.
I personally had never even once scraped the cat, ever. and the issue of it hitting something in my opinion is greatly exaggerated. Just don't try to drive over large speed-bumps at excessive speeds, and you'll be fine
On this particular prototype, the low points of the system are the compressor outlet and the waist gate.
turbo itself is sitting deep inside the well, and is not much exposed. the actual manifold runner is lower than the turbo, and should take the impact of let's say rolling over a high speed bump, rather than the turbo.
for the production builds the waistgate will be taken further back, and upwards from where it is currently, so that i can completely hide it. (there is is still enough room for that)
The compressor outlet will most likely be modified, and instead of pointing down, will be turned around and point upward and forward, thus completely deleting the issue of clearance.
I personally had never even once scraped the cat, ever. and the issue of it hitting something in my opinion is greatly exaggerated. Just don't try to drive over large speed-bumps at excessive speeds, and you'll be fine
Just seem like a pre-filter for the air filter and protection plate of some type should alleviate any concerns about the remote turbo location.
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Well the main factor to this is the cost. Since (once the beta testing stage is complete) I am planning to outsource the production of the manifold unit to a reputable and properly equipped fabrication facility. Making these sorts of things, may be too expensive for the benefit they provide. To just throw it in will bite deep into margin (which given the outsourcing portion) will not be high to begin with.
This could be done if I made the kits on my own, which although does seem like a profitable thing to do, requires A WHOLE LOT of time and effort, and based on the interest I am getting to this point, may turn out to be simply overwhelming.
Talking about Beta testing, if anyone is interested, for a price that is quite a bit lower than the projected retail, I will accept orders from gutsy individuals who want me personally to build their Kits. In return I'll need the pioneers to ride for a while with the kits set exactly as I have had them shipped without changing the ignition, boost or fuel settings at all, and feed me with the Int-X data logs, and other feedback now and then.
The only requirement for this is, you must have Int-X. Whether you get it on your own, or purchase it through me, I don't really care. But it must be the engine management system for this deal to work.
Feel Free to PM for more info.
This could be done if I made the kits on my own, which although does seem like a profitable thing to do, requires A WHOLE LOT of time and effort, and based on the interest I am getting to this point, may turn out to be simply overwhelming.
Talking about Beta testing, if anyone is interested, for a price that is quite a bit lower than the projected retail, I will accept orders from gutsy individuals who want me personally to build their Kits. In return I'll need the pioneers to ride for a while with the kits set exactly as I have had them shipped without changing the ignition, boost or fuel settings at all, and feed me with the Int-X data logs, and other feedback now and then.
The only requirement for this is, you must have Int-X. Whether you get it on your own, or purchase it through me, I don't really care. But it must be the engine management system for this deal to work.
Feel Free to PM for more info.
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So I assume you make these Prototypes with a safe tune so to speak and the boost limited so we don't blow our engines?
Eventually once you get all your log data we would get a better tune for power.
Man O man do I wish I had a few G's lyin around!
Eventually once you get all your log data we would get a better tune for power.
Man O man do I wish I had a few G's lyin around!
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This will be a very conservative tune with boost set to a max of 9psi
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