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07-24-2006, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shev22
It seems to me that it is very hard and costly to get any power out of the rx-8. Even turbocharged all the numbers i have seen here seem lows. Not hating on anyone but a turbo rsx-s would easily break 300whp tuned and still cost the same or even less. Why is it so hard to get these numbers from the rx-8?
07-24-2006, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by fenderlover
i'm sorry but for theptp price it'd just be cheaper to get a 20b engine with 600+Hp w/ turbo and the bang for buck would mkake it worth it
07-24-2006, 08:47 PM
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Honestly, why the hell would anyone buy an RSX now. The old Integra is better in every regard unless you're a badge *****
Marketing/Advertising likes to brainwash everyone into thinking newer is better. It's not necessarily better, its just newer. Many older model cars are far far far superior to newer arrivals. The old toyota corolla was actually RWD!!!
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07-24-2006, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
While I agree it is getting tiresome to hear the line "the RX-8 market just hasn't matured yet". This is true. ECU upgrades did not pop up overnight for the last RX-7. I don't think it was until ~'98 (someone correct me here) that we even got the PFS "Purple" PMC, and as I recall everyone thought that was a Godsend, much like everyone now thinks the Interceptor is a Godsend. There were always standalone options, but that was very costly. The FD was released late '92, that's a long long time for the market to really ramp up and get going. I expect the RX-8 ramp up time due to small production numbers to be no different, and three years later here we are. I have no doubt Pettit, Axial, Performance Design, and Mazsport will all come to market. And SFR, GReddy and PTP (or you can put down a deposit anyway) already exist, as does Blitz. By my count that's 8 options for a car that isn't exactly a best seller.
Just ask Crossbow, I think I said the same thing to the Mazda 6 guys a few years ago.
07-24-2006, 08:52 PM
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Just ask Crossbow, I think I said the same thing to the Mazda 6 guys a few years ago.
The 2007 Mazda6 is about to come out...and guess what? Still just A/F tuning
. At least you guys have the interceptor!
07-24-2006, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
no way is that conversion cheaper, gotta pay someone to do the work, plus import shipping cost for a engine thats close to $4000 to begin with.
Exactly, anyone that think's they're getting a 20b conversion done properly for under 15k is on crack (Puerto Ricans owning their own rotary shop excluded).
07-24-2006, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by crossbow
And like clockwork, almost every 2-3 months, somebody starts another tuning post about how some cool company is going to make a reflasher, a chip, some sort of piggy back...yadda yadda...we'll finally have full tuning!!!
The 2007 Mazda6 is about to come out...and guess what? Still just A/F tuning. At least you guys have the interceptor!
The 2007 Mazda6 is about to come out...and guess what? Still just A/F tuning
. At least you guys have the interceptor!
07-25-2006, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike
You're comparing 10-15 years ago to today though. Nowadays cars that are going to have a decent aftermarket have turbokits, exhausts, you name it, being developed before the cars are even released tin all markets. It's never going to be a big aftermarket for the RX-8, not enough owners are interested in modding their cars to justify the R&D costs for most companies. Again, I'm not saying there won't be more options coming out, just saying if the RX-8 was going to have a big aftermarket it would have happened by now.
Just ask Crossbow, I think I said the same thing to the Mazda 6 guys a few years ago.
Just ask Crossbow, I think I said the same thing to the Mazda 6 guys a few years ago.
A friend of mine has a Solstice, and they already have a pretty decent turbo kit available with a full flash already. Ah...to drive a domestic and be spoiled.
07-25-2006, 09:28 AM
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Where would you need over 350whp? Unless you race at Road America(longest straight in the US) you probably won't need that much. The car is already really quick in the corners and there are quite a few parts to make it corner even faster/better. If you street race or wangan you will need all kinds of money to be even remotely competative. If you want to get to 350hp just be prepared to spend lots of money doing it. Time + Money = whatever hp you want
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07-25-2006, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Socr8tes
Nice math. 
2.0 / 1.3 = 1.5384615384615384615384615384615
Or if it easier for ya......
1.3 * 1.5384615384615384615384615384615 = 2.0
07-25-2006, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RX8PDX
Uh...
2.0 / 1.3 = 1.5384615384615384615384615384615
Or if it easier for ya......
1.3 * 1.5384615384615384615384615384615 = 2.0
2.0 / 1.3 = 1.5384615384615384615384615384615
Or if it easier for ya......
1.3 * 1.5384615384615384615384615384615 = 2.0
(100% bigger would mean 1.3 liters again means 2.6 liters. 150% bigger would then mean 3.25 liters)
...and I correct myself. Not 65% bigger, 65% the size of the 2.0. It is 53.8% bigger. I'll let you figure that one out.
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07-25-2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike
You're comparing 10-15 years ago to today though. Nowadays cars that are going to have a decent aftermarket have turbokits, exhausts, you name it, being developed before the cars are even released tin all markets. It's never going to be a big aftermarket for the RX-8, not enough owners are interested in modding their cars to justify the R&D costs for most companies. Again, I'm not saying there won't be more options coming out, just saying if the RX-8 was going to have a big aftermarket it would have happened by now.
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07-25-2006, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RX8PDX
Uh...
2.0 / 1.3 = 1.5384615384615384615384615384615
Or if it easier for ya......
1.3 * 1.5384615384615384615384615384615 = 2.0
2.0 / 1.3 = 1.5384615384615384615384615384615
Or if it easier for ya......
1.3 * 1.5384615384615384615384615384615 = 2.0
Been through the education system in Hillsboro, huh?
Thank you, Shinka-Dono, for the explanation.
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