LiL BenNy

Is anyone planning on both nitrous and a turbo kit? is this possible or would it be too hard on the engine... what shot of nos would you allowed to use? SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS!

philodox

It's a possibility that I may consider it.. I use 'consider' loosely.. I will wait and see. If anything, I'm going to port the engine before I 'consider' nitrous along with turbo.

Icemastr

Nitrous is usually used to help spool a large turbo up faster, not to increase the HP. Nitrous is not exactly common on turbocharged cars but it is not unheard of. Its just more of an additional expense that you don't really need on a street car.

philodox

hehe.. that's why I said "consider" very loosely

Omicron

LOL, Charles! Obviously you're compensating for a complete lack of disregard for the warranty... or something like that...

philodox

Don't just point at him.. I said the hell with my warrenty too

Icemastr

Just for the record I like nitrous and turbos at the same time. I think I am going to have to do something with a turbo, supercharger, and nitrous at the same time sometime.

burnoutking999

WELL MINES GOING TO BE TURBO/SUPERCHARED/NITROUSED/JETPROPELLED.....

cgrx

Or disregard for his safety :D

Fanman

I might look at one of those NX or NOS units that are supposed to be for turbo units where they spray the nitrous or CO2 directly into the intercooler. Not sure if this is a big difference then a dry shot kit, but I am kind've leery of the engine durability. I'm having my turbo kit put on as we speak so my warranty is shot.

Nemesis8

iTrader: (3)

Are we talking rocket science here...

LiL BenNy

any body hear of the new product CRYo2? its CO2 rather then nitrous.... any comments from the experts?

Nemesis8

iTrader: (3)

CO2 is strictly for intercoolers - I'm not an expert, but from what I know it is to help drop the intercooler temperature down.

RedRenisis

Yea the Cry02 system is pretty cool, its not injected into the engine the way nitrous is, instead its made to spray on the intercooler to further charge the air, by spraying Co2 onto the intercooler it in effect freezes the metal the air passes thru and cools the air flowing thru it allowing you to force more air into the engine.

SlashMatrix

Wouldn't that require a pretty large tank that needs refills all the time to get a descent affect on the intercooler? Seems like it would be more of a hassle than anything. But i could be wrong.

RedRenisis

Actually its not a problem at all, all you would need is a bottle filled with Co2 instead of NoS, so you'd have 2 tanks instaed of one, not a big deal if your looking for performance.

twospoons_

nitrous express has something similar using nos..

Richard Paul

iTrader: (5)

You want to get more air into the engine?? How about you put the intercooler before the turbo on the inlet side and spray the Co2 on it. This way you will really get more air into the system. By MASS. Cooling it after the turbo just gets some heat off and lowers the pressure making it dense and therefore more goes in. But it doesn't give you more then went in the turbo or came out.

LiL BenNy

any one know how this performs on rotarty engines cuz they do heat easily... also correct me if im wrong.. but i believe cry02 last longer then nos so you can purge all you want, and nos goes into the engine... but i believe i saw different stages of cry02 which stage one is like engine then 2 and 3 are intercooler and intake...

Richard Paul

iTrader: (5)

Charles, no it is not the same. Think of it as running the car in cooler ambiant air. And since your starting with amb temp and cooling it with sorta dry ice the inlet temp might be 50+ degrees less therefor the same volume taken in has more mass. Then that mass is compressed and temp added will be less then it would have been and contain more moles.

This method actually gets more air into the system. The other way does not. You can always IC on both sides. But you would have to use the Co2 on the outlet side also since there would be less delta otherwise and intercooling would have no effect.

This is impractical for anything but a drag car because you can't carry that much gas. You could use it well at Bonniville where it doesn't matter if you have heavy bottles in the trunk. There where the air is very thin at 4300 ft elv and 100f. reducing the air temp to say 40f coming into the engine will be a big help. I don't know but I think you can get the air down less than that.

Put another way, we were talking correction factors just a few days ago. If you put air intake temp of say 40f into the formula it would correct to a number less than what was on the gauges. Your corrected power would be less than you were getting.


This will work for non FI engines as well. It's like driving below sea level.

As to that drive I assume you are talking about electric drive. This is feasable but has it's problems unless you run with a lot higher voltage. Then you need a real big alternator to get recharge in a reasonable amount of time. I don't know if there are big enough alternators avalable for cars. I guess there are some for police use but I don't know how big they are. You could always put two alt on. I see they do this on those cars with opera house size sound systems.

Even with all that it still takes away one of the wonderfull things about a supercharged car, it always produces more torque even without going to full throttle. It is interesting to watch a manifold gauge while driving a SC car. Just drive normal and see how many times you go just slightly positive.

Climing a grade or towing a trailer will be enhanced by SC but not if it is driven electricly. Who am I talking to? You know this better then I, it's the same as nitrous.

Tnx, Richard