MM Turbo upgrade 3071 or 3076 or ???
05-23-2010, 05:58 PM
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05-23-2010, 08:45 PM
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I like this thread...
brettus, smooth move.
brettus, smooth move.
05-24-2010, 04:21 AM
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at this point... why do we even give a rats *** what MM has sitting down there?
we know what is sold as his upgrade, we know(more or less) the kind of power he can make, and what he runs at the track. and we know, given whatever compressor, how to achieve desired flow....
it doesnt matter if he has a circus elephant down there. anyone with a clue who really wanted to, could go and replicate results. they may have to outsource fabrication where MM does his own, but still...
we know what is sold as his upgrade, we know(more or less) the kind of power he can make, and what he runs at the track. and we know, given whatever compressor, how to achieve desired flow....
it doesnt matter if he has a circus elephant down there. anyone with a clue who really wanted to, could go and replicate results. they may have to outsource fabrication where MM does his own, but still...
05-24-2010, 03:14 PM
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Look - there is very little chance that I will ever replicate what MM has done .But one thing that does annoy me , is the perception that the Renesis engine is useless for making big power when compared to other rotaries .
I for one , don't believe that one bit and would like to see more people have a go .
MM is the only person on this site currently chasing and achieving that kind of hp . Whilst his input into the forum is invaluable , he is not exactly forthcoming when it comes to details . I keep pestering him for a dyno but he has no interest in such trivialities .
What he is failing to recognise (i believe) is that producing a dyno for a turboed Renesis of say 450whp imeadiately says to the rest of us - hey this is possible . So instead of swapping in an older 13b , a V8 or just giving up and buying another car, the enthusiasts among us might concentrate on the engine we already have.
05-24-2010, 03:22 PM
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I don't know to what extenct i agree with Brettus but for a part I surely do. On the other hand being busy doesn't help with telling everything you do. We can only guess how many pms he would receive for weird questions etc!
05-24-2010, 03:23 PM
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But one thing that does annoy me , is the perception that the Renesis engine is useless for making big power when compared to other rotaries ...
...hey this is possible. So instead of swapping in an older 13b , a V8 or just giving up and buying another car, the enthusiasts among us might concentrate on the engine we already have.
...hey this is possible. So instead of swapping in an older 13b , a V8 or just giving up and buying another car, the enthusiasts among us might concentrate on the engine we already have.
I realize and accept that the kind of power that I am pushing is available through significant work and a lot of mechanical empathy, but in the long run, the Renesis is not going to make REW-type power without a lot of modification and a lot of compromise.
To further qualify: If anyone has ever laid their hands/feet/eyes/butt on a 500HP+ rotary-powered vehicle before, you will understand that it is, largely, a piece of sh*t.
Rotary owners are notoriously "accepting" (read: "tolerant/ignorant/delusional) of vehicles that are, to say the least, a handful. They will willingly drive a car that won't idle, overheats, has poor throttle transition and a crazy/lopsided/unmanageable power band.
05-24-2010, 03:32 PM
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well brettus, you have the Esmeril "UNBREAKABLE" seals right?? turn your snail up to 16-18 psi on a dyno, and im sure you will see similar to what you want to see from MM. If you have the available fuel,youll see between 380-420 with that. But like MM said, you dont want to turn your car to a piece of ****. ahem.... So go ahead and do that for us and post a dyno. Then go to a track because im interested in the straight line number. And I dont care of the rx8 wasnt made for a straight line.... neither was the GTR, or other cars.
come back when you have paperwork. Thanks Brettus . lol
come back when you have paperwork. Thanks Brettus . lol
05-24-2010, 03:53 PM
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I really don't believe "big" power is attainable on the Renesis.
I realize and accept that the kind of power that I am pushing is available through significant work and a lot of mechanical empathy, but in the long run, the Renesis is not going to make REW-type power without a lot of modification and a lot of compromise.
To further qualify: If anyone has ever laid their hands/feet/eyes/butt on a 500HP+ rotary-powered vehicle before, you will understand that it is, largely, a piece of sh*t.
Rotary owners are notoriously "accepting" (read: "tolerant/ignorant/delusional) of vehicles that are, to say the least, a handful. They will willingly drive a car that won't idle, overheats, has poor throttle transition and a crazy/lopsided/unmanageable power band.
I realize and accept that the kind of power that I am pushing is available through significant work and a lot of mechanical empathy, but in the long run, the Renesis is not going to make REW-type power without a lot of modification and a lot of compromise.
To further qualify: If anyone has ever laid their hands/feet/eyes/butt on a 500HP+ rotary-powered vehicle before, you will understand that it is, largely, a piece of sh*t.
Rotary owners are notoriously "accepting" (read: "tolerant/ignorant/delusional) of vehicles that are, to say the least, a handful. They will willingly drive a car that won't idle, overheats, has poor throttle transition and a crazy/lopsided/unmanageable power band.
A flat powerband is what really makes a cool difference and that's our engine's strenght. I would put a REW in my car only if I were to do bar talk.
05-24-2010, 03:55 PM
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I really don't believe "big" power is attainable on the Renesis.
I realize and accept that the kind of power that I am pushing is available through significant work and a lot of mechanical empathy, but in the long run, the Renesis is not going to make REW-type power without a lot of modification and a lot of compromise.
To further qualify: If anyone has ever laid their hands/feet/eyes/butt on a 500HP+ rotary-powered vehicle before, you will understand that it is, largely, a piece of sh*t.
Rotary owners are notoriously "accepting" (read: "tolerant/ignorant/delusional) of vehicles that are, to say the least, a handful. They will willingly drive a car that won't idle, overheats, has poor throttle transition and a crazy/lopsided/unmanageable power band.
I realize and accept that the kind of power that I am pushing is available through significant work and a lot of mechanical empathy, but in the long run, the Renesis is not going to make REW-type power without a lot of modification and a lot of compromise.
To further qualify: If anyone has ever laid their hands/feet/eyes/butt on a 500HP+ rotary-powered vehicle before, you will understand that it is, largely, a piece of sh*t.
Rotary owners are notoriously "accepting" (read: "tolerant/ignorant/delusional) of vehicles that are, to say the least, a handful. They will willingly drive a car that won't idle, overheats, has poor throttle transition and a crazy/lopsided/unmanageable power band.
I just want to see it done
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