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dznutzuk 10-20-2010 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3754208)
Easy cash = easy tuning, cheaper than the rest of it for sure :dunno:

Greece=no rotary engine tuners :banghead:
Doesn't matter how much money you have, if they don't know what they're doing, the results won't be good. The only reliable choice we have is to pay a tuner to come here. :(

MazdaManiac 10-20-2010 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by dznutzuk (Post 3755017)
The only reliable choice we have is to pay a tuner to come here. :(

I was looking to visit some of my friends in Glyfada next year...

dznutzuk 10-21-2010 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3755393)
I was looking to visit some of my friends in Glyfada next year...

(Quote) "W E L L, come on down if the price is right" !!!!! But if would be better if you know how to tune Older style Haltechs(E6k) and Power FC's. How about coming sooner-like now... A lot of friends(people[Greek Americans]) say that they will come but never do!!! Demet Karaigannis you reading this? Still waiting bro! :rant:

Detrich 10-21-2010 05:48 PM

how much will it cost?


Originally Posted by Mazdatrix (Post 3754025)
Of course, if they would rather us do the work, we can build an entire system in house here at Mazdatrix.


TeamRX8 10-21-2010 06:29 PM

If you have to ask .....

Mazdatrix 10-22-2010 12:07 PM

After long day of installation and a long night of tuning by our tuner Nelson Siviero, our Street RWD RX-8 turned out 290 HP at 7400 rpm at 14psi.

More impressive, however, were the midrange numbers - above 249 HP from 5600 to 8800, and 229 ft lbs of torque at 5600. It will be a very drivable package.

After this weekend’s Redine Time Attack at Infineon Raceway, we will get back on the dyno and find some more power with a different throttle body, different muffler setup, and a different Turbonetics turbo. At this point, it is tuned safely and ready to hit the track.

Mazdatrix 10-22-2010 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Detrich (Post 3757485)
how much will it cost?

Depends entirely on the setup and options you choose. Best thing to do is give us a call.

Brettus 10-22-2010 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Mazdatrix (Post 3758210)
After long day of installation and a long night of tuning by our tuner Nelson Siviero, our Street RWD RX-8 turned out 290 HP at 7400 rpm at 14psi.

sure you didn't mean to say 390 ?

paulmasoner 10-22-2010 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3758332)
sure you didn't mean to say 390 ?

i would sure hope he did. otherwise its your average non-greddy turbo build

BigTurbo74 10-22-2010 09:42 PM

Unless its like a 50 trim to4E or something....

MazdaManiac 10-24-2010 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by Brettus (Post 3758332)
sure you didn't mean to say 390 ?

Well, since he followed with:
V

Originally Posted by Mazdatrix (Post 3758210)
More impressive, however, were the midrange numbers - above 249 HP from 5600 to 8800, and 229 ft lbs of torque at 5600. It will be a very drivable package.

I imagine he did mean 290.
Now, whether he meant something less than 14 PSI might be in question...

Brettus 10-24-2010 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 3760293)
Well, since he followed with:
VI imagine he did mean 290.
Now, whether he meant something less than 14 PSI might be in question...

yeah I did catch that as well . Hard to believe that is all he got with 14psi of boost . Something very screwy going on .

bhop 10-24-2010 11:41 PM

uh oh...:dunno:

TeamRX8 10-25-2010 12:40 AM

14 psig at that amount of overlap no less

See my previous post .... :eyetwitch

Brettus 10-25-2010 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by TeamRX8 (Post 3760376)
14 psig at that amount of overlap no less

See my previous post .... :eyetwitch

Why don't you just spell it out Team ?

overlap + renesis = no bueno ? :dunno:

TeamRX8 10-25-2010 07:52 AM

Go blow it out your oversize exhaust port :p:

olddragger 10-25-2010 09:19 AM

HA!
Does sound like it could use some troubleshooting?
Midrange power/TQ sounds ok--buttttttt?????
That power level and that cars weight will not win a Time attack, at least the ones I know off?
Dont give up guys-- appreciate yall's honesty in reporting the numbers.
OD

Rote8 10-25-2010 10:32 AM

290 RWHP; Mustang dyno?

Mazdatrix 10-25-2010 11:06 AM

To give some feedback on the current horsepower level and where things are at:

As this was the first time we have run this engine setup, and it was completed very late in the week for this past weekend's Redline Time Attack at Infineon Raceway, we opted to make things very safe for this first time out. With the high-compression Renesis rotors, we started at only 14psi and 11 degrees of timing and have plenty of room for improvement. We also know there are some limitations in the system, but, as our tuner put it during the dyno session, "its safe and will run forever like this. Go drive it."

Another thing to note is that we dyno'd the car with an exhaust system that we know is a limiting factor. This partially done so that we could establish a baseline, and also because we had a sound restriction at Infineon (Kyle's FC, with its open exhaust on a turbocharged 13B, was black-flagged for sound) and we opted to err on the quiet side. By the way, the car was dyno'd on a Dynojet.

The car ran trouble-free all weekend at the Redline event at Infineon, and Dave reported that it was stronger throughout the powerband than the previous supercharged setup. Unfortunately for us, it rained non-stop at Infineon and our Nitto NT-05 tires, while great in the dry, are not ideally suited for rain action. We did have one dry practice session to stretch the car's legs and it was really quick, so we'll see what we can do with a bit more power at the season finale at Fontana in three weeks.

We'll keep everyone posted as we continue to develop the car between now and Fontana.

BigTurbo74 10-25-2010 11:21 AM

What turbo are you using?

Maybe there is a big difference in power between high and low compression rotors? You get more volume with rx7 rotors, esp t2 ones. 11 degrees advance isn't causing a HUGE power loss.

MazdaManiac 10-25-2010 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by BigTurbo74 (Post 3760725)
11 degrees advance isn't causing a HUGE power loss.

11° is actually quite a bit of timing, especially at that much airflow.

TeamRX8 10-25-2010 12:24 PM

and the assumption game is afoot ....

olddragger 10-26-2010 11:31 AM

very safe tune and a smart move.
Stay tuned folks--no pun intended.
It would be great to have that 290 available at 6K:)
What are yall hooked to? S1 box and standard gearing?
OD

TeamRX8 10-26-2010 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by olddragger (Post 3762184)
It would be great to have that 290 available at 6K:)
OD

So would they since it didn't occur until 7400 rpm .... :hahano:

Brettus 10-26-2010 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Mazdatrix (Post 3760710)
, we started at only 14psi .

Just making some assumptions here for Team .

14psi at 5600 on a typical renesis is over 300whp .
You made 249 so must have lost over 50hp through air bypassing the combustion chamber :dunno:


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