KJ238

Heya guys,

Just fitted the GReddy Turbo Kit and car will be ready to collect in a couple of hours..

Also Fitted:
Turbosmart e-boost 2 boost controller
HKS SQV BOV
Trust Lightweight Pulley Kit
DEFI Boost Meter + Control Unit
Apex'i Turbo Timer
GReddy Oil Catch Tank
NGK Racing Competition Sparkies for RX-8 (9/10)

The existing exhaust I have is a HKS Legamax.

Just want to ask a few questions for when i pickup my car.

1) I read on the forum about resetting the KAM and NVRAM. Is this necessary to do? If so, i have already written down what I should do...

2) I have also read about a DSC warning light that shows up. There is a procedure to reset this, but i cant seem to find the thread again.. It involves turning the wheel left and right???

3) After the initial turbo run-in of 500km, I was recommended to drain the engine oil and refill with a new batch.. Is this necessary?

4) I have read that the stock boost targets around 6.5 psi (0.45 bar) and falls at higher RPMs due to a wastegate issue.. I already have a boost controller, the e-boost2 which prevents the boost from dropping at High RPMs from the wastegate. I want to know what is a good amount to set for high boost (After run-in of course). I have read in the FAQ that the kit can do up to 10psi (0.68bar). Is this what i should be aiming for? 0.7 boost? Can the stock NA engine take that?

The e-manage will not be tuned and will utilize the maps provided by Trust for the meanwhile till I get an Fcon V in a few months.

Thanks for any information and help

Kit

KJ238

I Have found the info i needed for question 2

Moostafa29

Until you tune the car, I would leave the boost where it is. 75% of the people with the emanage don't have good luck with it, so wait until you get your fcon to up the boost. You'll be suprised how hard it pulls without upping the boost.

adrian-1

1) It's not necessary to do this.
2) I know you found the answer but for future reference... with car on and idling, turn wheel all the way left and then all the way to the right. this will clear one of the lights. then turn off the car and turn back on, this clears the other light.
3) No it's not necessary. 500km is 300miles. You had to drain the oil to get the new turbo in, so I wouldn't do an oil change til your regular interval, I do mine every 3k-4k miles.
4) There's no way you can go up to 10psi without tuning the emanage! Like moostafa said, wait til you get the FconV before increasing boost.
The engine can handle 10psi but not sure how long it'll last if you do. More strain on the engine, the less it'll last. Could be 50k miles, could be 5kmiles.

Also, the tuning plays a big part on engine durablilty and driveablility. I do not know of anyone running at 10psi using the emanage (with custom map), now using the interceptor X, it's easily attainable.

Sapphonica

If you have the 'R' flash on your ECU, watch out for a lean condition that could toast your engine.

There are several of us who have blown engines this way.

RX8FOREAL

The R flash has added fuel across the whole band. As stated by Mazda tech and as seen by all who have the same super rich problem, particularly over 5k.

MadDog

I doubt that. I think people would have been bitching about the reduction in power with the R. I haven't heard a peep to that effect. I do know that the R interacts with the turbo kit is a less-than-desirable way. I don't think anyone really understands why or how. Last I heard, GReddy was coming out with a different dongle to address the problem, which to me does not sound like simply removing fuel.

IZoomZoomI

actually it did feel like a reduction in power when I first got the 8 back from the R flash.

I think moostafa said he felt the same with the flash as well.

Sapphonica

It's something to do with the way the injectors are controlled.

Moostafa29

I felt the same way. My car felt really sluggish compared to before I took it in.

MadDog

I meant the R flash on the stock 8. Everyone with a stocker, that I've heard about, has felt an increase in power with the R flash. Opposite effect for the turbo'd 8's - but this reduction in power could have been due to lean conditions, which would also explain why a couple of you guys are having your engine replace. I doubt that you would have any detonation at all if you were rich enough to feel a reduction. Too bad nobody has any AFR readings with the R flash that they can post. I think the R flash changed the way that the p1, p2 and secondary injectors are used. Changning this strategy changed how effetive the emanage was at controlling fuel under boost - at least the way GReddy had it set up out-of-the-box.

KJ238

My 8 is in Southeast Asia. I seriously do not know what flash i have on my car.... But I can feel my car is sluggish around 1k-2k range... I havent had high pulls on it yet (running in)....

As soon as i reach 500-800kms, i will take the car in to dyno..

KJ238

Oh, I am loaning an e-manage support tool from a friend... I'll post what maps i have... I assume they are the latest as this kit was freighted in from Japan...

KJ238

I've found out my car is fantastically lean at low rpm (under 2k)... like 14.0-15.0 from the turbo timer. I understand this is not accurate but it gives me a figure....

When i reach 3k rpm's the a/f drops to 11 sometimes 10.... I have seen lotsa maps uploaded to this site. I am not sure which is suitable for me.. pls help...

Friend with support tool will tweak it for me tonight

MadDog

WTF! Is it even possible to make the car move under 2kRPM? I wouldn't worry about your AFR there. You're probably not under boost, the stock ECU is in control, and having that AFR is not a problem when you aren't making any power.

KJ238

But how do i go about fixing it? getting the e-manage tuned?

KJ238

What is the password to unlock e-manage?

adrian-1

No password available.
You have to delete it and then reload a map that you have. Either call Greddy for the latest map to load or look around here for it.

I would personally wait til you get the Fcon V before tuning, unless your having major issues..... car shuts off, detonation, etc...

Bindon

Whats the benefit of the Fcon V Vs. The Emanage adrian?

Moostafa29

The FCon has greater resolution, so a higher tuning ability. It also can be used like the interceptor units to completely bypass the stock ecu from taking control of fuel and timing. The emanage will just alter the signal, but since the stock ecu "learns", altering the signal is not very benefitial.

MadDog

^ Have to disagree there. The kit is designed to force open-loop. There's no learning under boost by definition. My LTFT under boost hasn't changed in the 4 months or so that I've had the kit installed. People who have problems with LTFT, in my opinion, have something affecting their AFR while not under boost - like a leaky BOV. That would cause the ECU to learn.

RX8FOREAL

I have had the turbo installed last March and with the M flash ran great. Once the R flash was installed, the car has run very rich. I have an AEM A/F gauge which has been determined to be very accurate this past weekend when I brought my car to KDR rotary in PA to tune the Emanage. Even before I went, I knew the car was running super rich, particulary after 5k and over 80MPH. Once I had hit 80, the car began to studder and the A/F gauge would be flat lined, which meant the reading was below 11afr. Once on the dyno, and I was hooked up to the emanage software, Dave could not believe how rich the car was running over 5k and 80 mph. He was not able to reduce any fuel on the maps because he told me that area was controlled by stock ecu and could not be changed, reading was 0. He had to reduce air on that map by the most that was allowed, -27 to get a reading over 11 afr. By the way Dave was recommended to me by Benny of Greedy and said "Dave was the best person in the Northeast to tune the Emange". The car still runs like **** and I am convinced the only solution is a better piggy back ECU. I need to save some money and probally get the Interceptor. The R flash has screwed my car.

MadDog

No doubt. The R flash is a one-way ticket to Shitville for the GReddy setup. I guess you were not under boost at the loads you described?

RX8FOREAL

MadDog - That is correct - The car runs great during boost - Please explain why the turbo'd cars are having a problem with the R flash when the only issues I have are when not in boost and in areas not controlled by the Emanage ?

KJ238

yea lol... car runs great when i am not in boost lol... After using a version of TimsTurboMap and tweaking with it, car runs A LOT better....