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Old 08-24-2005, 12:16 PM
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Is Greddy/SSR Turbo Enough?

With me about to bite the nail on purchasing a Greddy turbo kit, I am going back and forth on wether or not I should buy it or not. I know I want a turbo kit on my 8. I know I want low end power, it just takes too long for the 8 to accelerate up to high speeds because of it's high-rev/no torque. And it seems to me that the Greddy kit will give me all of this, kicking in at a low 2500RPM's however will it give me enough?

At this time, I only have the money to get the Greddy kit, bov, and two gauges. Even with that I need to apply for a 1k loan in order to have the money. After paying off the loan and getting enough funds to get the kit installed, I will have it installed, but does this kit offer enough for me to be satisfied. I want to feel the difference, difference in acceleration, and maybe even a slight neck snap because of the torque. I know later down the line, once I do have enough money, I will upgrade to a part like the Interceptor-X, I will buy another gauge, injectors, boost controller, upgrade the turbine, etc etc. but with all this costs, I will be lucky to make 350rwhp right? Will this be enough to satisfy me? I do not want to race 24/7, I just want the power under the hood to play around on the freeway if I want to have some fun, or have the power to enjoy track days and maybe even do some drag times at the track. I want to be able to keep up with cars that are slightly modified 350Z's, GTO's, STI's, EVO's etc.

As you can see I have a lot going through my head and I'm about to spend a good deal of money for this car, but as I see SSR pushing near 350RWHP out the door with their kit and all the potential that their kit might have in order to push more power especially paired up with the Interceptor-X, I love it, but we have to take into consideration the price. Little less than $7k for the whole kit, not including install.

So in debating, the Greddy kit, say is about $4k for kit/bov/gauge/install and that's the run at stock boost giving me about 220-240rwhp tuned. The SSR kit is about $7k for kit/bov/Greddy E-manage Ultimate/Injectors/Fuel Pump and that's run at stock boost giving about 275-300rwhp with room to improve/add power and who knows what this kit will max out at.

The Greddy is cheaper, smaller, and will max out at a power rating where basically the SSR will start. The SSR is a more expensive complete kit that will push more power than the Greddy, but at this time, the money is a big issue. Do I go ahead and go with the Greddy or wait out a long long time until I get the money to do the SSR kit and blow all my money on that.
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dude, there is a thread right underneath this that talks specifically about the ssr and greddy turbo and why each would be better. If you need to loan money to get you project going I seriously reconsider, thats how college students come out with more debt that anything else. But thats you, check it don't think which would perform better at this time I think money has to factor into your decision, if you can barely afford a greddy turbo I stay away from the ssr.
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I cannot say how much power will satisfy you. I think personally I will be happy at 275-300hp. Go drive some various cars with different hp ratings and figure out what you want. What I can tell you is if I could go back, I would probably not buy the Greddy kit without the interceptor. I say this because with the emanage you are taking a risk. Statistically not bad since only 1 person has blown his engine, but you just don't know what's going on with the stock ecu, and I personally don't feel comfortable with that which is why I ordered the interceptor.

Also with the Greddy kit it will be very fast at first, but after a few weeks it will gradually get slower as the ecu trims fuel. You will have to remove the negative battery terminal to reset this. Not too bad, but it is annoying doing it every two-three weeks. I think the Greddy kit has alot of potential and its a good place to start. Mazsport has a whole series of improvements coming out that should give results equal to or better than sfr's, and it allows you to gradually upgrade instead of one big purchase.
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Dude, search,,,
Greddy won't max out at 350whp, try 280-290whp instead.
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Basically I am asking is with running stock boost, will I notice a big difference? Like how much is 30-40rwhp add to a difference? 2x faster, 3x faster, etc etc. Just like in car audio a 3db increase is basically twice as loud. I just want to make sure that if I spend the money for this, I'll be happy and notice the difference even though the two Greddy turbo owners I talked to (Rick from Ricks Rotary Shop in Pleasanton and Sapphonica on the forums here even though he's not fully running right) said that the difference is between night and day.

Any other Greddy owners want to speak their mind about their thoughts of the kit?
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Remember that while you may be adding only 30-40 hp PEAK, how much more are you going to get through the entire rpm range? This is what will make the car feel much faster. You'll have the torque you've been missing. The powerband will be nothing like what you have now. It will be more along the lines of installing a much larger engine in your car as far as low end power goes.

With an Interceptor-X ecu and a Greddy turbo, you will max out right at around 300 rwhp. You will have a very strong powerband up to there though with a whole lot of low and midrange power. With a properly tuned SSR kit, you could eclipse this mark right up to the point the engine can't handle any more. Don't know what that limit is though.

Just to say it, there will ALWAYS be a faster car out there. Don't waste your time trying to beat up on them. It's pointless, won't prove anything, and can potentially get you arrested or killed if you are trying to prove this by street racing. Is it enough? Your car already has enough power to do it's intended job. How much power you want is only going to be something that you are going to have to spend the money on to find out. We can't tell you.
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Originally Posted by HardHitter
At this time, I only have the money to get the Greddy kit, bov, and two gauges. Even with that I need to apply for a 1k loan in order to have the money. After paying off the loan and getting enough funds to get the kit installed, I will have it installed,
Just from a financial standpoint, I say don't get it.
If you need a loan to buy it, then you can't afford it and shouldn't even be thinking of going turbo.
Reminds me of a post from a member who got the greddy kit and installed it, then he didn't have any cash left to buy an O2 sensor that he broke when he was installing it.

If you decide you want to go into debt for this kit, find somebody in your area that's got the Greddy installed and take a ride in it. If your very lucky they may let you drive it.
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It is possible to go over 300whp if Mazsport is succesful in machining the Greddy turbo for more output. Which is one of here planned upgrades that should be available in a few months.
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yes.

but dont expect too much more.

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Originally Posted by adrian-1
Just from a financial standpoint, I say don't get it.
If you need a loan to buy it, then you can't afford it and shouldn't even be thinking of going turbo.
I echo that sentiment. Any large project should have at least 15-20% extra in the budget for unforeseen complications.
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After thinking it over a bit, I think I am going to drop out of getting the FI because of finances. But, I want to do something to the car, I was talking to Moosa about it, and he told me to go with the Interceptor-X.

I'm debating on just spending the money to get that now and be happy with what do you guys think, 5-10RWHP gain and couple lbs of torque? Maybe that will liven up the car to keep me satisfied. And it'll be something I'll already have once I go with FI.
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After going back and forth, I'm having a lot of trouble dealing with this lol. I really want the low end power from a turbo. That is my basic complaint about this car is that the low end is so "weak" I drive this car as my daily driver and I keep basically all my shifts around 3-4K to save on gas mileage (especially with the prices it's at now) and the power in that range as everyone knows is just basically nothing. With a FI kit I know that I will get that type of power, but with the sacrafice of money.

But then I think about all the other things, I should get a lightened flywheel, or upgrade my clutch, or get the Interceptor-X, all these other options come in mind and I really just don't know what I want to do. FI of course is going to be the most expensive route, but then again, if I do go with the flywheel or interceptor or anything else, it will be usable and help add "performance" to when I do go FI.

So many things I want to do, and if I do go the flywheel and clutch and interceptor and all that stuff, for how much that all adds up, I could have gone with FI so do you guys see what I'm saying?
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