Skiptomylue

yeah, but some of us want more power of the rx8, and not everyone can afford 10K turbo kit.. WITHOUT shipping... Without installation prices and without tuning.. plus i live in canada.. so that 10k Mazsport kit all of a sudden turns to about a 12K kit......i think id go with the greddy. and spend an extra 2k to make it work.. then spend 15k...

rotarygod

Who says you need to pay $10K to go faster? You don't. Their $10K kit is their stage 2 anyways. The stage 1 kit still made FAR more than any Greddy kit will ever make anywhere by anyone ever and it's built wonderfully. There are other options out there as well though.

Yes it makes more power. You do need to do some tweaking to make it work decently as out of the box tuned the way it is, it is a waste of money. If you want a small gain for a couple of thousand dollars uninstalled then I guess go for it. I'd personally rather stay slow than use a Greddy product on my car but that's just me. That's how bad I personally hate them and their crap!

mysql101

You're right, there are far better kits on the market, but it boils down to the price and performance ratio. GReddy doesn't really seem to understand the rotary, but a turbo kit is essentually a turbo, some pipes, and fuel management. Since we're taking fuel management out of the picture, your only question is if the supplied turbo is big enough for your needs.


It's actually a "Type 2" kit, far as I can tell their type 1 and type 2 kit both can make the same power levels, they just go about it in different ways.

rotarygod

Stage 2, type 2, whatever. Same thing. I got to see both of them up close this weekend anyways. I assure you, they aren't the same kit doing things in different ways. Different turbo and intercooler. It's more than just looks. They also come with complete fuel and ignition upgrades as well. What other kit does that? None and they all need it!

I may be really hard on Greddy but I have good reason to be. For a company that is so respected by so many (for some strange reason?), and who has so much money to be offering things all the time for such a wide range of cars, they do many things half assed. They take shortcuts. They have no excuse to. They like bandaid products rather than revolutionary ones. They have the ability to do things better but apparently income is more important than a good product and a good image. That's what it all comes down to and unfortunately they aren't alone in this thinking when it comes to big companies.

Skiptomylue

This is why.
see the sticker on the front Fender there!? they are advertised on big named cars, in big influencial Movies. (2fast 2furious for example.)
true, i havnt used a greddy kit... sure it will have its problems but.. waht doesnt, im sure there will be some minor bugs here and there in Scotts turbo kit, Just lie kthe rx8 itself.. some had to get a new engine in the recall.. some didnt have any problems.. luck of the draw... i jsut know i dont have 10-12k to spend on a turbo kit. i want more power, but i cant justify that kinda of money.. even the stage one is what... 8k? american. so 9k +shipping, + taxes.. +installation + Tuning...
still dropping close to 12k..

Fanman

You are not talking about minor bugs. You can get a decent kit, as long as you don't mind replacing the hoses & couplers (Greddy units are OK, but not great), the fuel management unit (Greddy Blue was not good, Ultimate is a little better still not the best solution), and later on down the road maybe change out the turbo itself if you want more power. That is not minor. When all is said and done when you want good hp gains, all that will be left of the Greddy kit will be some pipes. Honestly, I have the Greddy turbo kit, so it's not like I should have a bias against it, but if I had to do it all over again I wouldn't do it. There are too many good kits coming out. not just a high end Mazsport, or SFR kit but also the Petit Racing, Axial Flow units will not be anywhere close to $10K and will give you a better, more complete kit for around $4300-$5000. The PTP turbo kit will probably come out somewhere in the middle of that.

One thing not mentioned also is that greddy customer service is bar none one of the worst companies that i have ever dealt with. I now have pulled sevral of the Greddy parts off of my car & replaced them with HKS stuff. The quality of the HKS stuff, but even moreso the ease of working with the company is night & day.

I 100% agree with RG. They offered a half assed solution to the RX8 community to be the 1st one to market but the bugs were huge. They basically made us (the 1st adopters figure out all the problems). I have by and large, but it took me several more thousands of dollars than my initial investment.

slavearm

Yah... I bought a boost controller at Autobacs last week (Greddy Profec-B Spec2), it came with a bad solenoid out of the box, and Greddy wont replace it because super auto bacs (a retail store) is not an authorized dealer. Autobacs wont take it back, because they didn't install it. I could understand if it broke a few weeks later or soemthing, but it was bad out of the box. F-Greddy. I am taking it up with my CC company, but those guys suck BAD.