First issue after installing Esmeril Kit
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after further searching around the boards, 2097 Target A/F feedback system too rich ON 2 Fuel system. If try and lean it out on the INT X would that help me in starting at all. Or would that just be an issue once it is fired up and running.
I have not checked for codes since i have been trying all these prcedures... maybe i should.
I have not checked for codes since i have been trying all these prcedures... maybe i should.
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no. for some reason zee told me that he somehow got your tune from diego and was running it. I do not even know if thats possible but thats what i hear. But i knwo this tune is hella rich as it sits
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I believe that he got the turbo kit and then he bought the INTx off a greddy kit and had problems tuning it.
I talked to him about just copying my map off of WhiteSnoflake8's Intx but I never knew if he got it or not. I know Diego was having problems getting his computer hooked into the INTx, I don't think he (WhiteSnowFlake8) was ever able to even start tuning it.
I talked to him about just copying my map off of WhiteSnoflake8's Intx but I never knew if he got it or not. I know Diego was having problems getting his computer hooked into the INTx, I don't think he (WhiteSnowFlake8) was ever able to even start tuning it.
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Hmmm.... like i said mine started and ran with no issues till about 6000 RPM. Didnt i read that you had this problem when you first installed the kit.
I have no clue what you mean by could not get it to connect to the computer. like physically? or could not get the laptop to connect to it when tuning.
Also, how would i load a differnt map onto the int - x all together. would this be possible?
I have no clue what you mean by could not get it to connect to the computer. like physically? or could not get the laptop to connect to it when tuning.
Also, how would i load a differnt map onto the int - x all together. would this be possible?
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after further searching around the boards, 2097 Target A/F feedback system too rich ON 2 Fuel system. If try and lean it out on the INT X would that help me in starting at all. Or would that just be an issue once it is fired up and running.
I have not checked for codes since i have been trying all these procedures... maybe i should.
I have not checked for codes since i have been trying all these procedures... maybe i should.
There is a parameter on the Interceptor-X that sets fuel during Cranking. I don't remember what screen it is off the top of my head but its pretty obvious as it is called "Crank" I believe. Either way, if the problem is richness Staticlag's suggestions of disconnecting the fuel pump and trying to start the car coupled with cranking with the plugs out should take care of the flooded engine.
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Yeah it was because of the tune being rich and my coils. I leaned it out some after a while but i never replaced my coils.
I talked to him about it and he was having trouble getting vista to cooperate with his USB-serial port converter.
I'm not sure if it has a save -> export function, but the easiest way I have found is to just take a screenshot of the INT dashboard with the values and copy them down.
I talked to him about it and he was having trouble getting vista to cooperate with his USB-serial port converter.
I'm not sure if it has a save -> export function, but the easiest way I have found is to just take a screenshot of the INT dashboard with the values and copy them down.
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I will take a look at the Crank map in a bit. Tad ( the guy that will most likely be tuning) is due out in a couple hours to see what he can figure out.
On an unrelated note, I belive Tad left you a message last night chris on that tuning info.
On an unrelated note, I belive Tad left you a message last night chris on that tuning info.
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hmmm. That could be kind hard to get a screenshot off of an int x thats not on a car. I will see if leaning out the crank function helps along with whatever tad says to try.
I am still trying to get ahold of a compression tester also. I sure do hope the motor is ok though.
I am still trying to get ahold of a compression tester also. I sure do hope the motor is ok though.
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Theres also a fuel enrichment at startup value in the options menu that may be set too high. I think mine was like 30%. Might want to check that, that might be flooding it also.
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A little update for ya. We tried some more de flodding and still nothing woudl happen. We tried adjusting some maps in the INT-X to see what we could do for startup and if we could do anything to help. Nothign we did on the computer would help the situation.
Then, as our last resort, we removed the INT-X and tried cranking the motor. THE CAR FIRED UP. It stumbled a little and burned off the xcess fuel. It held a constant RPM at idle but was stumbleing a little. No codes were thrown or anything. Obviously i am not going to drive the car like this. Only let it Idle.
I was a little suprised it started up and ran with the stock ECU with the larger injectors and all but it did. Is there something i am missing in the INT-X that is causing issues and problems. Something that i can adjsut or is something in the INT-X internally wrong. I would appriciate the help. And thanks for all of the replies so far.
Then, as our last resort, we removed the INT-X and tried cranking the motor. THE CAR FIRED UP. It stumbled a little and burned off the xcess fuel. It held a constant RPM at idle but was stumbleing a little. No codes were thrown or anything. Obviously i am not going to drive the car like this. Only let it Idle.
I was a little suprised it started up and ran with the stock ECU with the larger injectors and all but it did. Is there something i am missing in the INT-X that is causing issues and problems. Something that i can adjsut or is something in the INT-X internally wrong. I would appriciate the help. And thanks for all of the replies so far.
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OK i have been doin some searchign around on the forums and i keep reading about people getting Two or Three MAPS on the dongule when they buy the INT-X. How are these peope downloading these maps off of the dongule? I can not find a place where i could load a map or see where one would be stored. This is kinda off topic but curious on the MAP situation.
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Thats kinda the conclusion that i came to. Somethign physically wrong iwth the int - x and not the tune. I was jsut curious if there was any way i could check it instead of going out and buying a new int - x without knowing
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OK i have been doin some searchign around on the forums and i keep reading about people getting Two or Three MAPS on the dongule when they buy the INT-X. How are these peope downloading these maps off of the dongule? I can not find a place where i could load a map or see where one would be stored. This is kinda off topic but curious on the MAP situation.
I don't think there's a download and upload function for it but I could be wrong.
remixlp was having this exact same problem for a while. I think it might just be how the INT is wired or some special setting that may have worked for the greddy kit.
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so your saying there are other maps stored on it though? like the stock map from esmeril? if this is true then i should be able to upload the stock map, and if the INT-X itself is ok, the car should start and run. Correct?
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In reply to your PM static :
The problem now is getting the car started. It will not start at all. You turn the key and its jsut the constant RPM of the starter and nothing more.
If i unhook the INT-X from the ECU and just start it off the ECU it fires right up. We tryed adjusting hte crank map and the idle map and tried many diffent things to it. Still no change in how it all was trying to crank the motor over.
I will work on gettin those screen shots up later on if i can. I need to hook the INT-X back up to the ECU though. I got it unhooked at the moment so it would idle all the unburnt fuel out of the motor.
Anything on the INT-x that would tell the car to not start? Its odd like its not even trying to fire. Like a no spark situation - but i checked each coil also and the spark is jumping from the coil to the plug wire. Its odd how it will start with the stock ecu but not the INT-X
The problem now is getting the car started. It will not start at all. You turn the key and its jsut the constant RPM of the starter and nothing more.
If i unhook the INT-X from the ECU and just start it off the ECU it fires right up. We tryed adjusting hte crank map and the idle map and tried many diffent things to it. Still no change in how it all was trying to crank the motor over.
I will work on gettin those screen shots up later on if i can. I need to hook the INT-X back up to the ECU though. I got it unhooked at the moment so it would idle all the unburnt fuel out of the motor.
Anything on the INT-x that would tell the car to not start? Its odd like its not even trying to fire. Like a no spark situation - but i checked each coil also and the spark is jumping from the coil to the plug wire. Its odd how it will start with the stock ecu but not the INT-X
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I know it was a greddy INTx though. Probably has maps for the greddy turbo.
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When i first bought it he told me there were three maps on it: the base from esmeril, yours, and one he had played with off the base map. I am now thinking this is not true.
I text him earlier this morning about where he got it and what kit it was used for. he replied " SFR. I got it from a guy in the Overboost lord Thread"
Basically i need to find someone with and esmeril kit and have them give me screen shots of all their maps and settings so i can copy thier map. Correct?
edit: why would it work and drive for a couple days, then start doing this if its a map issue? kinda odd....
I text him earlier this morning about where he got it and what kit it was used for. he replied " SFR. I got it from a guy in the Overboost lord Thread"
Basically i need to find someone with and esmeril kit and have them give me screen shots of all their maps and settings so i can copy thier map. Correct?
edit: why would it work and drive for a couple days, then start doing this if its a map issue? kinda odd....
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