Bryan@BNR

Here are some pics of this Esmeril turbo that was upgraded to a Garrett OE GT61. I replaced the everything but the turbine housing. That way everything with the kit would bolt up with ease. The CHRA (center housing rotating assembly) is water cooled for drastic improvements of reliability. The GT61 is a turbo capable of 500 RWHP, but many have made 450-475 on the pre-REW rotary engines.

Here are some pics...

Kane

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How did you like that shaft play when I mailed it you...... :D

Bryan@BNR

Hey that old CHRA counted 2 points in my recycle bin! :D

Kane

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HAHA! Looks sick man; nice work.

PS - in case I forgot to tell you; can you keep that same oil drain line so Nester can bolt it up easily.

Sucks I'm not gonna be in Hawaii to tune it.

Brettus

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so this replaces a turbo that is too big with a smaller more reliable one ?

Kane

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Customer's goals my son; customer's goals.....

aquadageo11

Can't wait to get this thing in an show what it can do. Vidio coming soon to show off all the greatness that the esmirl kit is supost to have but dosent.

blackenedwings

Bryan does make awfully pretty turbos. Good job.

Kane

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This is going to be fun.... remote tuning on the Int-X FTL....

PS - My bad about misspelling your name bro.

Luckycat

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I have Esmeril turbo on my car and you probably see my video somewhere already. I am curious about your mod to the turbo. You mentioned that the CHRA is water cooled. The stock turbo that comes with the kit doesn't and only cool by oil. Is this mean extra plumbing is required for this upgrade turbo? I assume that this is a straight bolt on to the existing set up. Correct?

Kane

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Yes, you plumb the water lines from the throttle body to the new turbo.

Luckycat

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Thanks Kane for the quick reply. So you T-off the water line from the throttle body? One go to the turbo and one go to the throttle body?

Now what different is this tubo compare to the stock one beside the water cool capability and the housings? Is the journal bearings replace by ball bearings? Mine is about 5000 miles now and still going strong. No play on the shaft.

aquadageo11

As far as the orignal turbo I was olny able to make 300 at the wheels at 10 psi. Far short of what esmirl clames. I kind of curious to how other peoples kits compare. Has anyone else done dyno pulls. An as far as differnce this is a Garret turbo not that piece that's from china.

blackenedwings

Water cooled Garrett turbo >>> Chinese eBay turbo.

Luckycat

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Well, if you look at the dyno chart closely on that 366whp dyno pull, the car was running at 13 psi, not 10 psi. And the car was running on esmeril coil, not factory coil. Also there are variablility between engines. What is your set up?

Back to the turbo, so is this still a journal bearing turbo with new housing and water cool capability? Garret turbo is a well known brand and I am sure it is a good turbo. I am thinking of upgrading mine to Precision turbo that is now an option for this turbo kit. Right now mine is still going strong and it spools pretty quick. There is no play on the shaft after 5000 miles. What is the price for this upgrade? Send in your old turbo for rework?

Kane

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Yes, you have to send your old turbo in for re-working. I am not sure if BNR is using the better 360 bearings on this one, I know he usually does.

AD had the BHR ignition and I tuned it on the dyno to close to 300 at 9 PSI; but after taking the turbo off I can tell you that thing was hosed... and no matter what I did it wouldn't make any power below 4500 RPMS.... so it is what it is.

I have tuned 2 cars with BNR upgrades one 8 and one Speed6; and both put up huge gains over the factory turbo (greddy and k04 respectively); in my experience (and I have proven this by sending a lot of business BNR's way) - I wouldn't use anyone else. As a matter of fact, the speed 6 is getting a new turbo from BNR in the future. I can tell you one thing, breaking traction in 3rd and 4th on an AWD 6 is quite an experience.

Luckycat

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Thanks Kane for the info. My turbo is prettty good I think. I get boost around 3200 rpm if I floor it early. I will keep this in mind when it is time for me to replace/upgrade the turbo. This is my first turbo so I don't know what the life span of the turbo would be. What is the lead time and cost for this work on stock Esmeril turbo? I want to compare the price to a new precision T-70 turbo that I am thinking of getting later on.

Bryan@BNR

I always install 360 thrust kits in turbos. I use 270s in stock rebuilds, but anything with higher performance they go in. ETA is 2-3 weeks on one of these upgrades. It takes all kinds of custom parts to make it happen, but I use all OE Garrett parts. I do use a Billet seal plate that isn't OE Garrett, but way nicer :D. I can set you up with something bigger or smaller. Whatever you want to do!

PTE has all their housings made copying garrett as much as they can. Why not just make your own turbo instead of copying someone elses product...

Luckycat

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Bryan, can you PM me the cost of this work? Thanks.

pking1122

Slightly off topic, but does Chris have any updates on Esmeril-AP use? A marriage of the kit, AP, and upgraded snail would be a wet dream.

pdxhak

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Slightly off topic

turborx8

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Great job. Now all we need is a working Esmeril kit with a Cobb AP and we have the ulimate turbo kit for the rx8!

Luckycat

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I think Chris was looking at trying to make AP work with this turbo kit but there is something about piping diameter and location of the MAF that makes it difficult to make it works well.

Microtech is fine for me so far. Just remember that one map will not let you drive around safely all year round. I have winter map right now and Chris will create a summer map for me this spring. After this all I have to do is switch the program over when it gets warm or cold. It is not a big deal. And I think you have can have more hp using microtech with this kit than with AP.

pking1122

That's not that bad. It would just be a hell of a lot more convenient if Microtech had AP capabilities in terms of having multiple map settings, or even to have a separate storage device for multiple tunes comunicate with it.

Either way, this upgrade looks sick. I can't wait to see some dynos, and videos of it installed. Nice work, Bryan.

bse50

The AP is plainly superior to the microtech under every aspect. Our stock computer is WAY more intelligent than a cheap ecu. It's like comparing a motec m2r and a motec m880 PCM!