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ChrisRX8PR 07-09-2008 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 2543162)

Try doing that with a 60mm wastegate instead of a 35-38mm.....

Chris

devildog1679 07-09-2008 08:39 AM

I saw this Kit first hand at a Dyno meet, it does look sexy but the WG was pretty damn close to the ground. I would say about 3 to 5 inches max. I am no expert but from what I can tell many people are apprehensive in buying this kit due to the WG position. Why not change it's design? Is it a huge problem in doing so?

Macius8 07-09-2008 08:44 AM

The wastegate unfortunately IS too low on this kit, seen it in person. I would not feel comfortable driving over speed bumps or small obstacles. Especially when the city is redoing pavement, they tear the old layer away and the manholes stick out a few inches, now way in hell you would make it with them in between the wheels. The kit does look nice though :)

ChrisRX8PR 07-09-2008 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by devildog1679 (Post 2543287)
I saw this Kit first hand at a Dyno meet, it does look sexy but the WG was pretty damn close to the ground. I would say about 3 to 5 inches max. I am no expert but from what I can tell many people are apprehensive in buying this kit due to the WG position. Why not change it's design? Is it a huge problem in doing so?

We'll look into it.

Chris

devildog1679 07-09-2008 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisRX8PR (Post 2543296)
We'll look into it.

Chris

Ok, it's just that from what I have read many people like the Kit and it's potential. It's just the WG that has been a issue with many. Good Luck hope you can come up with a solution.

tdiddy 07-09-2008 09:27 AM

Yes, some of us have seen this kit installed and everyone, including the owner and the shop that installed it said the wastegate location is a problem. I am not a "hater" againts any products that shops/companies/people are willing to make for the 8. I just try to provide constructive critism. In this case you should seriously look into redesigning the wastegate location for this kit.

tdiddy 07-09-2008 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisRX8PR (Post 2543284)
Try doing that with a 60mm wastegate instead of a 35-38mm.....

Chris

I am almost certain that is a 44mm wastegate. Granted its not a 60mm but size doesn't always matter. :)

ChrisRX8PR 07-09-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tdiddy (Post 2543347)
I am almost certain that is a 44mm wastegate. Granted its not a 60mm but size doesn't always matter. :)

It looks like a 35mm-38mm to me.

Here are some pics of a 35, 38, 40 and 44mm wastegates. The flanges change. the 35 and 38 are the only ones with two bolt flanges. The 44 has a V-band setup.

If you have seen a HKS 60mm wastegate....its about the size of the stock turbo in the greddy kit.

I totally see your point and like I said, we will look into it, its just that in this particular case, size does matter.

Chris

tdiddy 07-09-2008 10:29 AM

You are probably right Chris. I was just assuming those were pictures of a Mazsport Type 1 kit and their website says that the type 1 kit comes with a 44mm extermal wastegate so that is where I was getting my information from. The real question is what turbo kit is that in the pictures?

Jeff - care to let us in on what kit is in the pictures?

SayNoToPistons 07-09-2008 12:58 PM

Until we see someone with an actual problem with the wastegate being "that low", we can't say it's "too low" or a "problem".

tdiddy 07-09-2008 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons (Post 2543650)
Until we see someone with an actual problem with the wastegate being "that low", we can't say it's "too low" or a "problem".

Why don't you ask importshowoff84 if he has had any problems with the wastegate being too low.

devildog1679 07-09-2008 01:24 PM

Yep, he had a problem with it.

05rex8 07-09-2008 07:47 PM

what happened?

--Jonathan

05rex8 07-09-2008 07:50 PM

After looking at the pictures again of staticlag's car...I don't think I like the looks of the I/C. It's massive and to me doesn't look right with the front of the car. I'm sure it serves it's purpose, but I like things a little more stealth than that. Just my opinion of course.

--Jonathan

MazdaManiac 07-09-2008 07:55 PM

I regularly hit my under-braces on speed bumps and the like.
The WG in this kit is almost 2" lower than that.

The intercooler is bling, but it would be less silly looking if it were right-side-up!

05rex8 07-09-2008 08:05 PM

Oh wow, I didn't even notice it was upside down. lol.....

--Jonathan

jbvrx8 07-09-2008 08:12 PM

Come on lol Chris at esmeril engineered this ebay kit perfectly

MazdaManiac 07-09-2008 08:15 PM

Well, technically, there is no right-side-up for an intercooler, but it ALWAYS looks better to have the small end up.


Originally Posted by tdiddy (Post 2543439)
Jeff - care to let us in on what kit is in the pictures?

Racing Beat built it for Mazda.

tdiddy 07-09-2008 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 2544216)
Racing Beat built it for Mazda.

Its a pretty nice design. What turbo did they use?

Macius8 07-09-2008 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by jbvrx8 (Post 2544210)
Come on lol Chris at esmeril engineered this ebay kit perfectly

It's no ebay kit for sure :). Looks real nice and supposedly performs very well too. Couple issues that should be taken care of and it'll be a top notch kit.

05rex8 07-09-2008 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by MazdaManiac (Post 2544216)
Well, technically, there is no right-side-up for an intercooler, but it ALWAYS looks better to have the small end up.



Racing Beat built it for Mazda.

agreed

GAMBEAN 07-09-2008 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by jbvrx8 (Post 2544210)
Come on lol Chris at esmeril engineered this ebay kit perfectly

lmfao! you gotta love that first post LOL!

rotarenvy 07-10-2008 04:44 AM

from the pictures on the esmeril site the construction looks really well made. the waste gate location should be an easy fix also.

truemagellen 07-11-2008 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by 05rex8 (Post 2544170)
After looking at the pictures again of staticlag's car...I don't think I like the looks of the I/C. It's massive and to me doesn't look right with the front of the car. I'm sure it serves it's purpose, but I like things a little more stealth than that. Just my opinion of course.

--Jonathan

You can keep the grill installed and not even see the intercooler if you want that stealth look. As for the size of the Intercooler you want won't regret the size as you increase the hp and the turbo isn't self-destructing.

05rex8 07-11-2008 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by truemagellen (Post 2546347)
You can keep the grill installed and not even see the intercooler if you want that stealth look. As for the size of the Intercooler you want won't regret the size as you increase the hp and the turbo isn't self-destructing.

Interesting, I thought you had to remove that grill. If it was kept on, wouldn't that considerably effect air flow though?

--Jonathan


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