you realize there are 5 bazillion wires going from the car to the int-x, and from the int-x to the factory pcm?
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Originally Posted by mysql
(Post 2385856)
you realize there are 5 bazillion wires going from the car to the int-x, and from the int-x to the factory pcm?
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Originally Posted by nuke0907
(Post 2385483)
won't the plastic zipties still melt?
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All-in-All I haven't had a problem with the heat after 500 miles of use. Temps are normal while driving. The hoses are shielded on one side, and water-cooled on the other, they are very unlikely to melt, but the heat differential might make them brittle in a few years, then silicone replacements may be in order.
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Originally Posted by WoodsOfGreenRx8
(Post 2385864)
That I do. I saw the car in person. It was merely a thought & why I also put in parenthesis *if possible* in my first post about relocating it. To someone who cares a bit more about aesthetics it might be an option, thats all.
The INTX does take a VAC/BOOST in hose, so where-ever you put it, it would still need to be accesible to the hose. |
Originally Posted by staticlag
(Post 2385910)
You could relocate it if you wanted to, it would be a pain to extend the stock harness, and would require an adapter like greddy sells so you won't have to cut it up. But with the adapter you could relocate it whereever you wanted(within reason). I actually had to extend my wideband by 8" to get it to reach my gauge pod. Not a big deal to cut and splice in an extension.
The INTX does take a VAC/BOOST in hose, so where-ever you put it, it would still need to be accesible to the hose.
Originally Posted by mysql
(Post 2385856)
you realize there are 5 bazillion wires going from the car to the int-x, and from the int-x to the factory pcm?
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heh. Extending one wire is completely different from extending hundreds. The cost of a boomslang custom made harness is a few hundred bucks, and that's for a short harness.
I don't think anyone is going to be relocating the int-x. staticlag, eventually you're going to break down and ceramic coat it so no one can bust your chops over zip ties :) |
Originally Posted by mysql
(Post 2385935)
heh. Extending one wire is completely different from extending hundreds. The cost of a boomslang custom made harness is a few hundred bucks, and that's for a short harness.
I don't think anyone is going to be relocating the int-x. staticlag, eventually you're going to break down and ceramic coat it so no one can bust your chops over zip ties :) Yeah, I was def thinking of ceramic coat, esp since it will keep engine bay temps down a bit. We shall see what the track days this year will say. One thing is for sure, a vented hood is looking pretty good right now. I will probably cut my own used one up. Assuming something fails: Zip ties melt: -I will wire the shield tape or use a metal hose clamp Temps too high: -I will buy a turbo blanket Temps still too high: -I will buy a vented hood Temps STILL too high -Ceramic coat everything and replace oil coolers. |
Oh and TEMPS STILL TOO HIGH:
-I will pull my A/C, relocate all my radiator hoses, and add a 3rd oil cooler. |
Originally Posted by staticlag
(Post 2385977)
Oh and TEMPS STILL TOO HIGH:
-I will pull my A/C, relocate all my radiator hoses, and add a 3rd oil cooler. :lol: |
Originally Posted by rotorocks
(Post 2385982)
And what about if it is still too high? :banghead:
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That would be too easy.
By the way I deleted my post about the APV. that wouldn't work. It is actuated by a motor. Stupid me :) |
Originally Posted by rotorocks
(Post 2385893)
What's there to release? It is quite simple, and i was going to try and do this next weekend as a matter of fact. :)
Basically all you need is a dual port actuator. One port stays hooked up as is, the other is hooked into the pressure pipe or the side port, whatever... As boost breaks into positive, it will engage the actuator and open the port, while the other port will work as it used to, and open the actuator when car reaches the 6300 rpm in vac. Comon you guys with all the mystery... :lol: Hmm... nope, that isn't it. We tried that. the APV wheel that the APV motor actuates on needs to move about 300degress from closed to open. The most you can get from a linear actuator is 170-175Deg if you're lucky and plan it out perfectly. This means it will either not fully close or not fully open. I know this because we tried it. Although the actual APV sleeves probably only need to move about 180 the shaft that extends outside the LIM isn't a 1:1 ratio with the sleeves. You would either need a rotatory pneumatic actuator(very rare) or solenoid(most don't turn more than 180deg either) or an electronic controller for the stock APV motor that works off a boost signal. The only way to do it with a linear actuator would be for the actuator to push on a 1:2 transmission that in turn rotates the APV shaft. This will probably prove to be too complicated and bulky to fit in the available space considering the DP is nearby. We are working on an electronic solution. I'll keep everyone updated :) Chris |
Originally Posted by rotorocks
(Post 2386024)
That would be too easy.
By the way I deleted my post about the APV. that wouldn't work. It is actuated by a motor. Stupid me :) Actually a mechanical actuator could work and would be ideal but when you remove the APV motor you can tell it needs to move more than what a linear actuator can move it. We'll see where this takes us..... Keep up the good work ;) Chris |
Originally Posted by ChrisRX8PR
(Post 2386064)
Haha, you got to it before I posted about it. :)
Actually a mechanical actuator could work and would be ideal but when you remove the APV motor you can tell it needs to move more than what a linear actuator can move it. We'll see where this takes us..... Keep up the good work ;) Chris |
Originally Posted by rotorocks
(Post 2386112)
Which wire on the PCM harness is used for the actuator mtor, do you remember off the top of your head?
Chris |
Nothing is an ON and OFF in this damn car :)
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Originally Posted by rotorocks
(Post 2385933)
Yep, and that hose better not be pinched, or too long. The accuracy of the signal is extremely important!!!
Love the "5 bazillion" number. That about describes it very accurately. :lol2: |
Actually anything longer than what it is is already is that much too long.
The length of it curently is kinda long too, if you think about it, especially if you are using a fast spooling turbo, like greddy. The longer the hose is the higher the chance that the pressure wave traveling through it will be distorted by the hose expancion and the time it takes for the signal to reach the sensor. Yes eventually it catches up, but for that fraction of a second that it takes for everyting to react, your rotors may have made a few combustion cycles with lean mixture. |
Originally Posted by rotorocks
(Post 2386476)
Actually anything longer than what it is is already is that much too long.
The length of it curently is kinda long too, if you think about it, especially if you are using a fast spooling turbo, like greddy. The longer the hose is the higher the chance that the pressure wave traveling through it will be distorted by the hose expancion and the time it takes for the signal to reach the sensor. Yes eventually it catches up, but for that fraction of a second that it takes for everyting to react, your rotors may have made a few combustion cycles with lean mixture. Best bet is to go to a small diameter metal tube. Smaller diameter means faster reaction time since less air is compressed/displaced. |
Static,
You were talking about how you still like the REVi sound of your intake several posts ago, but when I was examining the pictures of your installed kit I didn't see the Racing Beat box. Did you take it apart? Is it a different intake system? Also, I imagine that the intercooler would interfere with the ram-air duct that some Racing Beat intakes have. Thanks (and a very substantial congratulations on the kit)! |
the turbo comes with its own intake
he said it sounds like the revi |
good call, thanks for the clarification
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
(Post 2384298)
Yes do it...buy a Sports package 6sp RX-8 used with many miles for cheap (compression tested before purchase of course) which will be nice and light. Then bolt on the Esmeril kit. Evil can ride again ;)
Evil |
Originally Posted by eastcoastrotary
(Post 2386921)
good call, thanks for the clarification
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