Esmeril Racing Turbo Kit
04-23-2009, 08:53 AM
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honestly if you are going for the turbocharger route, with as much reading about the kits that I have been doing, Esmeril is the way to go (they have great power gains, a high quality product, and from what I hear good customer service.
However if you want the most reliable kit out there I think it might be the Pettit supercharger kit (low maintenance, easy bolt on, and tuning all done by pettit)
However if you want the most reliable kit out there I think it might be the Pettit supercharger kit (low maintenance, easy bolt on, and tuning all done by pettit)
04-23-2009, 09:53 AM
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honestly if you are going for the turbocharger route, with as much reading about the kits that I have been doing, Esmeril is the way to go (they have great power gains, a high quality product, and from what I hear good customer service.
However if you want the most reliable kit out there I think it might be the Pettit supercharger kit (low maintenance, easy bolt on, and tuning all done by pettit)
However if you want the most reliable kit out there I think it might be the Pettit supercharger kit (low maintenance, easy bolt on, and tuning all done by pettit)
I have to agree with you on the Esmeril kit. I have done a lot of shopping around for FI kits before I settle down on this kit. The exhaust manifold is very very strong and solid. Good over all quaility parts and everything come with the kit. Everything fit the way they suppose to. The only thing you need to get are gauges and WB O2 sensor. I also heard that the base map work pretty well out of the box. I happen to live 20 mins away from Chris who create this kit and he has been helpful and so does Jason from Mazdaparts.com. I have a friend with experience in FI help me install the kit. I couldn't get it done without his help so my hat goes off to him too. The installation is not too difficult but tedious.
In the end the reliability of FI (beside the components) come down to how well the car is tuned. One tune doesn't work all the time. Weather may get real hot or it may get real cold. You have to tune it to match the current condition. I will take my time to understand the concept of tuning so I can make some minor changes on my car to avoid issues as much as possible. I know the risk of going to FI but whether FI or NA, tuning is very critical for reliability of engine. My car is almost ready to run. I just have to finsih some minor detail and hopefully get it complete by this weekend.
And I have to agree with you that Pettit racing superchargered is the most reliable form of FI right now. I haven't seen or heard anyone has issue with it. My dad used to have a hot rodded Volvo 760 turbo and that one of the reason I decide to turbo my car in stead of going supercharged.
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04-23-2009, 11:23 AM
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I have to agree with you on the Esmeril kit. I have done a lot of shopping around for FI kits before I settle down on this kit. The exhaust manifold is very very strong and solid. Good over all quaility parts and everything come with the kit. Everything fit the way they suppose to. The only thing you need to get are gauges and WB O2 sensor. I also heard that the base map work pretty well out of the box. I happen to live 20 mins away from Chris who create this kit and he has been helpful and so does Jason from Mazdaparts.com. I have a friend with experience in FI help me install the kit. I couldn't get it done without his help so my hat goes off to him too. The installation is not too difficult but tedious.
In the end the reliability of FI (beside the components) come down to how well the car is tuned. One tune doesn't work all the time. Weather may get real hot or it may get real cold. You have to tune it to match the current condition. I will take my time to understand the concept of tuning so I can make some minor changes on my car to avoid issues as much as possible. I know the risk of going to FI but whether FI or NA, tuning is very critical for reliability of engine. My car is almost ready to run. I just have to finsih some minor detail and hopefully get it complete by this weekend.
And I have to agree with you that Pettit racing superchargered is the most reliable form of FI right now. I haven't seen or heard anyone has issue with it. My dad used to have a hot rodded Volvo 760 turbo and that one of the reason I decide to turbo my car in stead of going supercharged.
In the end the reliability of FI (beside the components) come down to how well the car is tuned. One tune doesn't work all the time. Weather may get real hot or it may get real cold. You have to tune it to match the current condition. I will take my time to understand the concept of tuning so I can make some minor changes on my car to avoid issues as much as possible. I know the risk of going to FI but whether FI or NA, tuning is very critical for reliability of engine. My car is almost ready to run. I just have to finsih some minor detail and hopefully get it complete by this weekend.
And I have to agree with you that Pettit racing superchargered is the most reliable form of FI right now. I haven't seen or heard anyone has issue with it. My dad used to have a hot rodded Volvo 760 turbo and that one of the reason I decide to turbo my car in stead of going supercharged.
Definitely post plenty of pictures of the new setup when you have some time!
04-23-2009, 04:01 PM
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I understand that Pettit kit is more safe to use for me, but I REALLY want ESMERIL 
Its because I want serious HP upgrade, not the tiny little one with pettit
Only thing that is a problem, is the distance from where I live to the US, so if something happen, I will have to wait few weeks for parts
So in this case, I have to be sure that I can believe to the Esmeril Racing that they created kit the best way they can and there is a verry little chance something bad will happen. I think I can believe in their engineering
- Chris, I had another question on the previous page (the stupid one about tuning ECU), I'll be glad you answer me because you're head engineer
- second thing, about the gauges ... do I really need them? And what is "WB O2 sensor" ?
There should be some manual to this turbo kit to download, which when I read, I'll understand everything ... Is it somewhere to download?
Its because I want serious HP upgrade, not the tiny little one with pettit
Only thing that is a problem, is the distance from where I live to the US, so if something happen, I will have to wait few weeks for parts
So in this case, I have to be sure that I can believe to the Esmeril Racing that they created kit the best way they can and there is a verry little chance something bad will happen. I think I can believe in their engineering
- Chris, I had another question on the previous page (the stupid one about tuning ECU), I'll be glad you answer me because you're head engineer
- second thing, about the gauges ... do I really need them? And what is "WB O2 sensor" ?
There should be some manual to this turbo kit to download, which when I read, I'll understand everything ... Is it somewhere to download?
04-23-2009, 05:01 PM
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Best regards,
Chris
04-23-2009, 05:08 PM
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Please dont tell anyone about this...this is Top Secret Esmeril Work....
Best regards,
Chris
p.s.I will not answer any dimensional questions about the intake so don't try...just enjoy the pics...
04-23-2009, 05:33 PM
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whoa!
04-23-2009, 06:03 PM
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Its not about changing the kit design. The kit works great in its current form and is ideal. The reason we are changing everything is because we can and we want to push the Renesis engine to limit. Air to Air are better street intercoolers under most circumstances, the reason we went with an air to water is because with the bigger turbo we wanted to reduce lag as much as possible and the air to water allows a very short travel from turbo to throttle body, not to mention that the intercooler has less internal volume to fill.
Best regards,
Chris
and we want to push the Renesis engine to limit. Air to Air are better street intercoolers under most circumstances, the reason we went with an air to water is because with the bigger turbo we wanted to reduce lag as much as possible and the air to water allows a very short travel from turbo to throttle body, not to mention that the intercooler has less internal volume to fill.Best regards,
Chris
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04-23-2009, 07:30 PM
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Woot! Nice..... Can not wait to see the newest Dyno..... When I get this kit I will only aiming for 340WHP give my brothers Vette a run for it's money.... we'll see how long till I want to shoot for more power.
I was so excited to know that if I wanted my 8 could make 400+ wheel HP. Give my brothers GN A good run then....lol....
One thing I've been meaning to ask for a while is..... are you guys planning to udate the kit to work with the AP. If I remember right it had something to do with the location of the MAF and tube length/size. Hopefullu mid Augutst I'll be ready to buy.
I was so excited to know that if I wanted my 8 could make 400+ wheel HP. Give my brothers GN A good run then....lol....
One thing I've been meaning to ask for a while is..... are you guys planning to udate the kit to work with the AP. If I remember right it had something to do with the location of the MAF and tube length/size. Hopefullu mid Augutst I'll be ready to buy.
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