Esmeril Racing Turbo Kit
 

Hello,

I just want to ask a few questions about this pretty nice looking turbo kit. In first line, I have to say, I've been writing to the Esmeril Racing for two times about month ago, but they didn't send back answers, so I'm looking for my answers in here.

I have an European version of Mazda RX-8, 170 kW, selling name Revolution Top, there is an adition in name as "Mazda RX-8 SE" ... year of make is 2005, mileage is 70thousand kilometers (aprox 44.000 miles).

I really want to buy Esmeril Racing turbo kit, but here is few questions that troubles me:

1. is this kit suitable for European 170 kW version of RX-8 ?
2. should be some problem with mileage of this car ?
3. is this kit suitable for everyday driving ?
4. what parts I'm in need, except esmeril turbo kit and esmeril ignition upgrade, to be pretty sure, that I reach their dyno values?
(esmeril dyno values: 414whp (~490hp@crank) at 16psi (Esmeril Racing Igniton Upgrade Installed). RPM Pickup had some trouble so we had to do it in MPH. Max torque at the wheels was 304.)

Thank you very much for the answers, maybe you get me little bit closer to have this done ...

I know they have apex seals change to get 414WHP
And you should go and read more here

https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...eril+turbo+kit

Actually we did the 414whp run on stock apex seals. They were changed later with the purpose of hitting 500whp and we are close to posting some new dyno charts with those numbers :).

Best regards,

Chris

I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. We had a glitch with our email service provider and found out it was selectively delivering emails to us and we had lost dozens of emails over that last couple of months. If you want you can either resend your original email messages via PM on this forum and I will answer all of your questions.

Here are the answers to your questions:

1. The kit will bolt up to your car, the fuel management will have to be set up for your injection which is only 4 injectors instead of 6 if I am not mistaken.

2. I am not sure I understand the question but in reference to total mileage of the car, as long as the engine is in good shape there shouldn't be any issues.

3. The kit is suitable for daily driving, it was designed for daily driving and tested under both winter and summer conditions.

4. If you are shooting for 400whp you will need to upgrade your clutch...besides that everything else is pretty much covered.

I would also like to add that the Esmeril Racing RX-8 Turbo Kit now comes with a Tial Brand low profile/v-band wastegate which does not protrude from the bottom of the car and it has the obvious advantage of being a usa, brand name piece. This takes cares of two issues people criticized; the wastegate being lower than the rest of the car and the wastegate not being a brand unit.

We will also add the option of a Precision Turbo turbocharger to our sale page for those that would rather have a brand name turbo.

Thanks for the interest.

Best regards,

Chris

Nice updates to the kit Chris... an upgraded turbo and better wastegate should resolve a lot of the complaints. What are the specs on the upgraded turbo and how much extra will it be on top of the kit cost?

nice fix on the wastegate! any pics of the tial wastegate clearance?

We are actually in the decision making process on that subject there are two mayor candidates and their cost is less than $100 apart. We are still working out the details with PT on vendor pricing etc and we will release that info as soon as everything is finalized, that is the reason we haven't mentioned it until now and its not in our website yet. The wastegate is already in-place and all kits are currently begin shipped with the new unit.

Best regards,

Chris

There is no clearance issues at all. it doesn't stick out at all, the new wastegate is about 3" shorter than the old one and the old one only stuck out about 1"-1.25".

No pics yet but I can assure you the issue is resolved ;)


Best regards,

Chris

nice :)

you should upgrade your tread Chris !!
And hope see some new numbers soon

I will actually create a new thread because the 500whp build is no longer with an out of box kit. We are using a larger turbo(yeah, larger), our apex seals and a complete dual pump return E85 system. We are also replacing our stock intake manifold for custom aluminum one with a plenum. We know that 500whp is attainable with the stock one (ask me how I know ;)) but we wanted to experiment with this. The purpose of this build is no longer to see what the kit can do (since we already accomplished the kit goals) but to show what can be done with a Renesis if you really want to without having to switch engines (everything is bolt on).

The idea is to have an extremely comfortable 500whp range Renesis that can be driven daily without fear of exploding.

We've been very quiet for a reason.......we are very excited about all this...

Chris

It looks like you will have the most powerful rx8 in the US

Good job

So just to clarify: The kit being sold will bolt right up and be safe for daily driving with a good engine? I've been trying to follow the threads, but I'm having trouble digging through the fluff. 16lb of boost is quite a lot more than the GReddy.

Also, the EMS, if I choose to purchase that in addition to the kit, will I still have to get a tune in order to drive it. Obviously, tuning with help with making sure everything is tip top, but as is, is the EMS a drop in tune? I'm not sure I understand. What if I purchase without the EMS" Will the car still be drivable or is a tune needed. Will I have to drive to a tuner while staying out of boost?

Pardon the ignorance and thread-jacking, but my wife and I share the car and are looking at the different kits and she wants to go with the one with the least amount of trouble out of the box.

Chris, have you tried making the kit tunable with the AP? Maybe a kit that would work directly with the AP?

So it wont look like this anymore??

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...n/P1010629.jpg

Nope it wont....and btw...that is not how we hook up our wastegates or how we recommend we hook them up either or how our instructions say you hook it up(we don't hook up to that thread, we only use the one on the side and that one remains unplugged)...I have a feeling there were way better ways to hook up that line without it sticking out that much, that fitting isn't even screwed all the way in, but I guess you wanted to prove something.

The new wastegate doesn't stick out at all so this is pointless :) :)

Best regards,

Chris

AND

i'm willing to bet $5 that that car is pretty lowered.

Thats how my AEM boost controller said to set it up as. So i followed that. And have you ever put a fitting on there? Shit gets really tight after only a few turns. It could be either the WG was tapped wrong, or the fitting is. Either way didn't want to prove anything but show how low it was. So if you take offense for me posting this picture then you shouldn't of sold the kit with this particular WG.

And good thing the new WG is smaller, so now the guys that have a LOWER car or even a STOCK height car don't have to worry about it.
And yes my car IS lowered, never made a claim that it wasn't... :icon_no2:

I see, not trying to sound upset. As a tip, putting Teflon on those thread will allow them to push way further in.

About the AEM boost controller, there are options, normally you don't use the top port unless you want to go way higher that what is reachable with the wastegate spring and a boost controller using only the side port. We have put fittings there but we did ti to allow more than 18psi, up to that it wasn't necessary.

I apologize if I came off as upset.

Best regards,

Chris

These recent updates to the kit sound excellent.

I am really looking forward to additional information, photos and an updated website displaying the new components and price increase.

Good work!

Thank you very much for the answers, from now I can finally sleep better :)

I have just only last question I forgot, maybe this will be very stupit question to you, but I have to ask to be sure.

- do I need after bolt on instalation of turbo kit and ignition upgrade and clutch go to some chiptuning company to chiptune (program) ecu? Or do I need completely new ecu? I've been reading posts, that many rx-8 owners are using interceptor-x computer, is this thing I have to have? Esmeril is giving some ecu maps with the turbo kit, if I understand their page. Can I just load this map to the oem rx-8 ecu and things will work like they shout?
- inhere, aftermarket ECUs are thing, that goverment and police doesn't like, years ago police took from me little bit expensive aftermarket ecu from subaru impreza and never returned ...

Maybe this is a very stupid question for you, but here in europe is tuning of rotary engines very rare thing, maybe I will be one of the first people doing this. We are strongly into power tuning of the Audi or in generaly german diesel engines, that's we are used to do. I been into this for many years. So I just want to be sure, that the tuning process is similar. You add new parts, go to the dyno, chiptune ecu and done.

Thanks :)

Sorry to hi-jack the tread but you in Europe you should consider also some other options for FI
Ηι, If you are in Greece , try JDM-R for force induction solutions
If you are in UK, try pettit racing.

pm me for details

I just finish installing mine, one with new wastegate. The wastegate is sitting about the same height as the oil pan. No more worry about wategate getting knockoff by speed bumps.

Care to post some pics of the new setup?

I will try to borrow a camera and post photo sometime soon.

If you are looking for an one of the least troublesome kits look at the pettit kit, however you wont get the hp or torque gains that you would out of the esmeril kit