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kersh4w 05-12-2009 11:28 AM

looks really nice. want to swap cars? :lol:

an rx8 that actually does need a torque arm. lol. good stuff.

SiLVeRE8 05-14-2009 10:47 PM

Wow this is by far one of the best turbo kit I have seen! Well done and cant wait to see the completed project

ssspeedfreak 05-15-2009 05:31 PM

Wow thats nice work! How much is this going to increase the price from the first kit and what are you going to call it stage 2?

ChrisRX8PR 05-18-2009 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by ssspeedfreak (Post 3023048)
Wow thats nice work! How much is this going to increase the price from the first kit and what are you going to call it stage 2?

This is a one-off build. We do not plan on selling this new setup. I am sure a few products will find their way into production that were used in this setup but plans are to offer upgrades for the standard kit, not to make a new one.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Chris

Phish806 05-18-2009 09:11 AM

Speaking of upgrades, is there another Wastegate that we can purchase somewhere on hte market that would be more of a low profile one and work on an already installed kit?

ssspeedfreak 05-22-2009 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by ChrisRX8PR (Post 3026036)
This is a one-off build. We do not plan on selling this new setup. I am sure a few products will find their way into production that were used in this setup but plans are to offer upgrades for the standard kit, not to make a new one.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Chris

I've NEVER been so teased! Well not without a dollar in my hand and a ------ in my lap! So what your saying Chris is that if we want a set up like that you could do it for us:fingersx::fingersx::fingersx:

Luckycat 05-24-2009 09:02 AM

Here is the photo of the new wastegate low profile tial 38 mm
 
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The wastegate is now hidden above the cross member. Dump pipe is 1/2" or so below the wastegate.

The kit runs very smooth and sound really nice. I have been driven it slow out of boost so far for break in period.

Gauge 05-28-2009 10:57 AM

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mmm got my kit today, heres a pic of a few of the goodies.

Cant wait to get it installed in a couple months.

ssspeedfreak 06-12-2009 08:40 AM

Chris I know that you are now offering two turbos for your kit. One thats name brand and the other a secret... What would you say are the difference between the two and pros, and cons? Also is the only EMU we could/should use the no longer being made interX?

eastcoastrotary 06-13-2009 05:13 PM

So I'm confused with the wastegate status.....if I ordered a kit today, would it come with the 38mm no-clearance-issues unit or the original 60mm one that people have whacked on speed bumps?

mazdaparts.com says "NEW FOR 2009 LOW PROFILE TIAL WASTEGATE! (extra clearance for lowered rides and/or large speed bumps)" - does this mean that current kits have been revamped to solve the clearance issue or that the 38mm kit is only compatible with 2009 models?

Thanks for the clarification.

ChrisRX8PR 06-14-2009 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by eastcoastrotary (Post 3068395)
So I'm confused with the wastegate status.....if I ordered a kit today, would it come with the 38mm no-clearance-issues unit or the original 60mm one that people have whacked on speed bumps?

mazdaparts.com says "NEW FOR 2009 LOW PROFILE TIAL WASTEGATE! (extra clearance for lowered rides and/or large speed bumps)" - does this mean that current kits have been revamped to solve the clearance issue or that the 38mm kit is only compatible with 2009 models?

Thanks for the clarification.

All kits now come with the 38mm low profile WG which solves the clearance issues. The New for 2009 means its new for Esmeril Racing in 2009 not that its for 2009 vehicles.

Hope this clears that up.

Best regards,

Chris

eastcoastrotary 06-14-2009 09:41 PM

That's exactly what I needed to know...thanks!

Motomouse 06-15-2009 07:18 PM

Luckycat can we see some dyno numbers ?? :)

ChrisRX8PR 06-16-2009 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 3071474)
Chris, have you seen the Vibrant low-pro wastegate mufflers?

No I have not, haven't even heard of them...hmmmm...I will search for them, I might want one for my car...sounds interesting...

Thanks.

Chris

ChrisRX8PR 06-17-2009 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill (Post 3072854)
I can get them for you but, as silly as it may seem, Vibrant doesn't have them listed on their website.

Here is a webpage from SCW but I would be happy to do a cost+shipping arrangement for Esmeril if you might be interested in trying one.

They are reminiscent of the Supertrapp muffler;

http://www.sportcompactwarehouse.com...r/g-54376.aspx

Cool. How good do they work? Have you seen one installed. I am interested.

Thanks.

Chris

WhiteSnowflake8 06-17-2009 02:27 PM

Chris polish that intake up man!! :mdrmed: lol

Symbioticgenius 06-25-2009 11:46 PM

I really like the Idea of Esmeril and BHR working together. This can mean great things for the RX8 Community.

Speaking of, is there any reason why this wouldn't work on an 09? Other than EMS

ChrisRX8PR 06-26-2009 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Symbioticgenius (Post 3087630)
I really like the Idea of Esmeril and BHR working together. This can mean great things for the RX8 Community.

Speaking of, is there any reason why this wouldn't work on an 09? Other than EMS

We are always willing to work with anyone for the greater good :), I am sure BHR is the same way. Two heads are always better than one.

The kit should bolt on to the car with no issues...and yes the EMS is the only hurdle...but it should be very similar to an RX-7 with 4 injectors only...

We will work on something for this ;)

Chris

Symbioticgenius 06-26-2009 11:31 AM

No Credit, just respect. To the both of you.

Leandrys 07-08-2009 06:15 AM

Hmm, i try to have an answer from mazdaparts to know if it's possible to buy and import a turbo kit + apex seals from esmeril racing in Europe, but nobody answers to my mail. Anyone here could help me ? :(

ChrisRX8PR 07-08-2009 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Leandrys (Post 3105799)
Hmm, i try to have an answer from mazdaparts to know if it's possible to buy and import a turbo kit + apex seals from esmeril racing in Europe, but nobody answers to my mail. Anyone here could help me ? :(

I forwarded your message to Mazdaparts.com. They are working on getting back to you with an estimate. I will remind him to call you today.

We do export, we just had a kit sent to Sweden and have had a few to Greece.

Thanks.

Chris

bse50 07-08-2009 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by ChrisRX8PR (Post 3105908)
I forwarded your message to Mazdaparts.com. They are working on getting back to you with an estimate. I will remind him to call you today.

We do export, we just had a kit sent to Sweden and have had a few to Greece.

Thanks.

Chris

I believe that you should start trying to point down a list of the possible tuners here in europe. There are just a few rotary tuners here capable of working on rx7s, you can imagine the level of knowledge about the rx8 :crying:
Especially since your turbo requires a blow-through maf tuning etc they may encounter some serious problems.
Making it a draw-through would enable the user to buy an access-port and have the "lol-mighty" :rofl: MazdaManiac do their tune with good results for instance.
I know that it is hard to redesign stuff and finding good tuners if you don't personally know them but i see that you're putting some serious effort to offering a good product this time!

@Leandrys: are you sure that you need apex seals too? if you're not rebuilding the engine for other reasons and you're not intending to do that soon you might be able to wait in my opinion!


Giorgio

Leandrys 07-08-2009 09:13 AM

I'll have to, my garantee is over, my 8 has made 60000 KM including lots of track days and daily high RPM, i'd rather make it before the turbo's installation.

ChrisRX8PR 07-08-2009 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by bse50 (Post 3105930)
I believe that you should start trying to point down a list of the possible tuners here in europe. There are just a few rotary tuners here capable of working on rx7s, you can imagine the level of knowledge about the rx8 :crying:
Especially since your turbo requires a blow-through maf tuning etc they may encounter some serious problems.
Making it a draw-through would enable the user to buy an access-port and have the "lol-mighty" :rofl: MazdaManiac do their tune with good results for instance.
I know that it is hard to redesign stuff and finding good tuners if you don't personally know them but i see that you're putting some serious effort to offering a good product this time!

@Leandrys: are you sure that you need apex seals too? if you're not rebuilding the engine for other reasons and you're not intending to do that soon you might be able to wait in my opinion!


Giorgio

I see your point. The problem is that certifying a tuner in Europe will likely require that I fly out the for a considerable amount of time and train someone to install the kit and be able to fine tune...that is if I am going to do it correctly.

About the MAF, a blow through is really not a possibility. Our turbo intake pipe is 4" the stock MAF pipe is 3.5...not to mention that there is about 4-6" of pipe between the filter and the turbo inlet and this would cause major airflow turbulence issues.

I know the Accesport if a great tool but I will always take standalone over any OEM computer any day...its just more positive control...nothing will "think" for you which is dangerous when running an engine at the edge of its capabilities...just my opinion...and the Accesport is great...not everyone is looking to have 3 times the mass air flow of the stock engine.

Chris

bse50 07-08-2009 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Leandrys (Post 3105958)
I'll have to, my garantee is over, my 8 has made 60000 KM including lots of track days and daily high RPM, i'd rather make it before the turbo's installation.

Just do a compression test and if it's fine you save a lot of money. 60.000km with some track time are not an issue if you did the proper maintenance with regular oil changes ;)


Originally Posted by ChrisRX8PR (Post 3106008)
I see your point. The problem is that certifying a tuner in Europe will likely require that I fly out the for a considerable amount of time and train someone to install the kit and be able to fine tune...that is if I am going to do it correctly.

About the MAF, a blow through is really not a possibility. Our turbo intake pipe is 4" the stock MAF pipe is 3.5...not to mention that there is about 4-6" of pipe between the filter and the turbo inlet and this would cause major airflow turbulence issues.

I know the Accesport if a great tool but I will always take standalone over any OEM computer any day...its just more positive control...nothing will "think" for you which is dangerous when running an engine at the edge of its capabilities...just my opinion...and the Accesport is great...not everyone is looking to have 3 times the mass air flow of the stock engine.

Chris


I understand your point but i prefer a direct flasher to a piggy back. If we talk about stand alones then yes, screw that OEM ecu!
I know of a couple of rotary tuners that might be able to install kits in Italy and Sweden.
The italian one won't need mounting instructions though but some tuning advice, mostly regarding spark split etc.
I can tell you who they are via PM and give their addresses if you wish.

As for the ecu.. you might want to build a harness for a motec in order to keep our car's basic functions via the stock pcm and the engine management with the motec ;) it can be done. long stuff but can be done!


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