conversion kit to a greater displacement engine.

great idea.

but you have the wrong engine. you need to make a conversion kit for the LS1. then you'll see some real interest.

Take post #8 in this thread and replace ls1 with 13b....;)

It just goes against our philosophy.

Chris

I'm up for anything that adds ALOT more power and reliability!!!

I think this is a great idea weather we buy it now or later the development needs to start the more parts are on the market the better. this worked for the honda.
but i still have to pay off my car before i can even think about a 20b

Great idea!!! I think it would be a good starting point for many less experienced rotary shops, or just shops in general if you could sell it to them. If lets say local shops would be willing to do this in the 10-20k range with your product/guide I think there would be many interested people. I know I would be :) Paying 30k+ at this point is a little much.
How about a 4 rotor conversion kit...

i know the only way i would be willing to pay 30k for an engine swap is if it shot 50' flames and i could do the 1/4 in the 7's. so having an option that is reasonably priced is now looking interesting. i know "reasonably priced" is a realative statement but i would say reliable power coming from a realatively stockor slightly modified motor justifies the reasonably priced statement.

With the 8 being relatively new on the market and many have yet to pay off their cars and dont have the time and money to do it themselves, I believe that if someone were to come out and actually piece it all together to make it a complete turnkey swap, I believe that you would see many jump on that. All that needs to be done (easier said than done) is to make a complete bolt on kit with all the goodies and people will jump on it especially with the NA version of the 20B. Until this is done, you will still have some who are very mechanically inclined and have the time and money to do it themselves but, if there was a complete kit or a shop that specialized in this and all people had to do was drop their car off and pick it up later as you see with FI shops, I believe people would prefer this more. Maybe, one day, this will happen. A turn-key 400whp 20b 8 is very tempting as long as the price is reasonable. When and if this will ever be done, hard to say.

Whats everbodys fascination with shooting flames on this site!!?? I'd be more worried about tearing up every car I face than shooting ricey flames

the "shooting flames" part was a joke. i was just emphesising that i would want out right extreme for 30k. like the ability to wrinkle the asphault under my tire for that kind of $$. don't really give a shit about flames. that's all

Just make a simple bolt on subframe, so people won't have to cut and extend their's, new engine mounts, and the steering shaft extension. Nothing else, everything else can be diy-just like some shops do for the FD. That's all I would be interested in! DO IT......and at a good price!

Interested...

i know the only way i would be willing to pay 30k for an engine swap is if i had 30k :P

Chris, you guys are awesome. Please do this so i can sell my TII and make this happen for my 8! Then let me move up there and work for you hah

This is the way I understand it, correct me if I am wrong, but a 20B swap can cost $30K ++++++++++? Not to mention all the time it takes for fabrication of the subframe, mounts, etc. Time is also money.

So lets say you decide to make the kit. Let's also say I have no skill in DIY (not that far from the truth). I purchase the kit from you and source all the parts including the engine and seals. Then give my car to a shop to get a 20B swap. Am I right in thinking your kit would potentially save me thousands in custom fabrication costs due to the amount of labor saved?

I paid the Rx8 off already so I'm close to project time. If forced induction can cost 8 to 10 K...It would be awsome if we could attain a 20B swap for another $5 k or so. I bet your going to tell me I am SOL though. Realistically it prob would be closer to $25k.

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an LS1 can do 400-500whp n/a and be far more reliable than a rotary at those horsepower numbers. and it'll have more torque and get better gas mileage. a friend of mine has an ls1 camaro that has 400whp and he gets 23mpg averaged. our car weighs 700lbs less, we'll get even better mpg. now thats just a nice engine.

agree with you there . BUT you destroy the soul of the car by doing that IMO . The thing that turned me from someone interested in cars to an enthusiast was the rotary engine .

the fast and the furious made me an enthusiast.

:lol:

Dear Heavenly Spirit, thank you for providing us with the direct-port nitrous injection, 4 core intercoolers, ball bearing turbos, and titanium valve springs, Amen.

I would seriously consider an LSX swap if I could buy a kit to make it happen.

IMO, an LS swap is retarded. If you want the best platform for a 400hp LS V8, get a Vette. That much weight up front completely destroys the balance of the car, so besides going a lot faster in a straight line, i don't get it. with a turbo 3 Rotor Renny, you wouldn't be sacrificing that much balance, and you wouldn't destroy the feeling/soul of the car. An RX-anything should be rotary. Period.

You say that much weight? 2 people can pick up a LS1, kind of like 2 people can pick up a Renesis. Its an ALL ALUMINUM engine. It weighs at most 50-100 lbs more than a renesis, THATS IT.

Come on guys, I know engine swaps excite everyone but lets stay on subject....we can discuss other engine swaps in a different thread...the purpose of this one is very clear...

Chris

And clearly, I would have interest in a product like this :icon_tup: Great ideas, and enthusiasm for the platform, Chris.

Very Interested but its not a feasible option for the rx8 community just yet. I think a few years down the road a kit like you intend would work.

3-rotor with a turbo weights more than an LS6...

^ idgaf, rotor> piston.....