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Old Jun 11, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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^^^Well....post 2005 :D If we started at 0...and posted once a year ....we'd be where we are today :D

And JC could buy the first blower. :D
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 02:30 AM
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I think we all understand your situation Richard, and it truly sucks. Field of Dreams my friend....Build it and they will come! I'll buy the SC, its not your fault Mazda is a bunch of &^#*&^$. If you tell me it makes X hp I will believe that. Build it and then put it on another car...use that for the final dyno to market if off of.
Yes Richard...I am grasping at straws and know you will not do this until you can do it right.
Just wishful thinking on my part!
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul
And JC could buy the first blower. :D
Did I tell you that I changed my name :D
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Does it feel like it goes lame at the point in the rpms? Is there supposed to be a bit of a bite when the ports open up? When I'm to the floor going up the rpm band myself I don't notice any pull in performance at any specific point with my car and I can see the speed rising but it doesn't go up at any noticeable burst either, is there supposed to be one? This has got me curious to the point of where I wonder if I have this issue as well.

It's the other way around, you feel a sluggish point, a dip in the power band. It shos up on the dyno exactly how it feels. Dull after 6200 then starts to pick up at 7200. But never really feels the same amount of pull.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 12:21 AM
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Hey RP, I have one of your shifters and live about 100 miles from you. If you need some definitive comparision to prove you have a problem with your car, I might be able to help. I was at Mazfest, and on the straights, mine runs with the rest of them. And it does want to slam into the fuel cutoff while seemingly building power, which is what you should be experiencing.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasKyle
I think we all understand your situation Richard, and it truly sucks. Field of Dreams my friend....Build it and they will come! I'll buy the SC, its not your fault Mazda is a bunch of &^#*&^$. If you tell me it makes X hp I will believe that. Build it and then put it on another car...use that for the final dyno to market if off of.
Yes Richard...I am grasping at straws and know you will not do this until you can do it right.
Just wishful thinking on my part!
Put it on my 2004 S2000 lol j/k kidding guys :D
Just get it into production and I will buy it based on the test bench data alone.
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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Any updates on the car repair? Has Mazda fixed, or even found, the issue yet?
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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BTW I just notice we are only 15 posts behind that "other" thread so maybe we should talk about planes or something
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 11:21 PM
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Mazda's kinda ignoring me. I'm puting my money on GuitarJunkie, he's coming over in a few days to look at it.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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any chance of seeing the dyno sheet? i looked, but couldn't find it.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Here you go, the Dyno is located here:

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...postcount=1884
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:48 AM
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interesting.

doesn't the vdi start working right when it goes fubar?
we can pull the motor off the aux ports and try to actuate them by hand--see if that works. with the dump in the afr's, it just looks like the ports aren't actuating...

we can try putting a strip of duct tape across the maf sensor to try to manipulate the readings too.

is the car by any chance an '03? i wasn't paying attention to what year it was when you were first talking about it. i know some of the earlier manifolds went cracky for some reason right when the aux ports were supposed to open.

anyway, i'll come down and see if i can hopefully get something figured out.

thanks for the sheet sigma.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:54 AM
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Richard prepare yourself for Dave's arrival. He looks like someone who might sell you drugs in a dark alley somewhere!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28

is the car by any chance an '03? i wasn't paying attention to what year it was when you were first talking about it. i know some of the earlier manifolds went cracky for some reason right when the aux ports were supposed to open.
Richards car was built in August 2003.....!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
interesting.

doesn't the vdi start working right when it goes fubar?
we can pull the motor off the aux ports and try to actuate them by hand--see if that works. with the dump in the afr's, it just looks like the ports aren't actuating...

we can try putting a strip of duct tape across the maf sensor to try to manipulate the readings too.

is the car by any chance an '03? i wasn't paying attention to what year it was when you were first talking about it. i know some of the earlier manifolds went cracky for some reason right when the aux ports were supposed to open.

anyway, i'll come down and see if i can hopefully get something figured out.

thanks for the sheet sigma.
Yes, I remember readin a british motor mag where there test/review sled had this the same problem. It was diagnosed as having a sticky vdi.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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vdi we can lock open, and actuate the p6i by hand... even if we don't get it permanently fixed, i'm sure we can make it work.

fred, i thought i looked more like a user than a dealer?????
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Sport Compact Car mag was one that had issues with an early dyno. I believe at that time Mazda blamed it on a stuck VDI
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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snoochies vdi was pretty sticky when i ported his motor. i pulled it out and hosed it off with brakecleen, then wd40 and it seems like that took care of it.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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I have since done a new dyno where I did an A/B test with the aux motor disconected. It was 154hp to 171hp but the curve was irratic above the opening point. Who has a fax and a scanner? So I can fax it to you and you post it. Ajax, are you out there?

If this thing curved like others do it would go 180hp. And you wouldn't have the hole in the acceleration that makes you want to shift early.

All that other info about early cars is interesting and I wonder why MazdaUSA didn't know about that. It really has to be in that area because it seems to do it intermitantly. There has been times when I think it worked right but can't be sure.

Don't worry Guitar Junkie this is Chatsworth, the **** capitol of the world, you can buy or sell anything here. Pills, Powders and a Hooker, your normal Saturday night. :D
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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mazdausa certainly knew about it because they had the same issue with some cars at the long lead press event at laguna seca
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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cool, get me some opium or demoral for my migraines! it is the season...

my fax # is:
760-949-1427

i'll scan it and get it up for ya.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by guitarjunkie28
cool, get me some opium or demoral for my migraines! it is the season...

my fax # is:
760-949-1427

i'll scan it and get it up for ya.
That still will not work, you need to put my fax number in your call blocking. I left it on your answering machine.
Anyone else have this kind of set up? Lets get this dyno sheet to Guitar Junkie.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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man i'm sorry... my bro's phoneline and i don't know how to work all that stuff.

friday lookin' good for you?
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Fridays cool by me. I sent the dyno to another member in Nevada. But I think it might be his work number so it will not get picked up till morning.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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That still will not work, you need to put my fax number in your call blocking. I left it on your answering machine.
Anyone else have this kind of set up? Lets get this dyno sheet to Guitar Junkie.

I PM'd U
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