Well I'm glad you guys missed me so much. However I was away on some family buisness for too long of a time. I'm on way back, this is the first computer I have been able to use in almost two weeks. Should be home by start of the week.

One thing is almost ready, I'm not in the shop but I hear the shifters will be ready in two weeks. The shafts are prototyped and we just have to make those nylon parts. When I'm back I'll post some pics on the other thread.

Just don't bail on me, the SC is all I live for.

 

WOW!

This must be the best thread on the 'net.

I do not own an 8, but I WANT. I have been working with Ford products for many years, including power adders and tuning (not manufacturing or tuning myself, but performing the installs). I think I might have some information that is of value in this thread.

There has been some concern about the strength of the resin (plastic) intake runners on the 8. While I am not sure what exact material it is, or the sectional area of the wall, I can assure you that similar materials on Ford and Dodge products are holding in excess of 12 PSI of intake pressurization without failures. In some cases, much greater pressures are seen, as high a 22 psi. The only reported "failures" are from people getting greedy with NOx and exploding the intake alltogather.

I read this entire thread twice, understand about 10% at moments, less others. But, I see there are tuning issues. I might be able to point you to some folks who can help. I already pmed some people the info, and since it is no secret, I will share it here as well. There is a fella, a former Ford powertrai engineer who is MOST HIGHLY respected and has done work for Jack Roush and FMC on a consulting basis for driveability (tuning). He has been "tuning" Ford products for many years, 5 that I know of first hand. He has now "officially" started a firm with the help of Superchips (they supply hardware and a name), it is called Superchips Custom Tuning (SCT). The fellow's name is Jerry W. He was on the design team for the ford 4R70W transmission, and has been active on dozens of Ford product related BBs since about 1997. He strives to make sure the CORRECT information is out there, and has helped thousands to make better modifications and decisions about their cars. This fellow and his team, can literally change ANYTHING in the EEC if the hardware will allow it. They know as well as the factory, how to alter the EEC for various changes to engine hardware. The best part is, none of it *necessarily* changes emissions performance or certification (in the real world).

Ok, time to re-read, again.

 

Damn it would suck to use up all the space on the Internet...

 

It's no secret but Richard just hasn't posted info on it. As you all know he has a 5 stage he has been working on. He also has been working on a 4 stage compressor. He is still working out efficiency differences between the rotary vs his compressors. If he can hit his goals with a 4 stage then great. Until then, he's testing 2 different units and needs to decide between them since they are more complex than just adding a stage to get more boost. Each one has to be designed to work togther as a system and as such each individual stage is a little different and each stage of the 5 stage is different than each of the 4 stage. You guys should feel fortunate he is doing so much research to give you the best product designed exclusively for your engine rather than just releasing a product to the public that merely works OK. He wants it right. Why is there always enough time and money to do it over again but never enough time and money to do it right the first time? He's avoiding this. Keep in mind he has also been contracted to make shift kits and pulleys. Also keep in mind that he doesn't have an RX-8 or Renesis at his shop and is relying on outside testing according to when schedules don't conflict. If this were all he worked on and he had everything in house then he would probably be done faster. But he doesn't.

Get over it people. If you have a problem with this thread, don't look at it. That's much easier than getting everyone else not to.

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one." -Spock

 

Long thread?
http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=135921

This one has what 700 replies so far? Try 3000+

RX8club has a way to go.

 

Wow....You really are a whinging Pom, aren't you! This is the second time I've told you to pull your head in....Back in your cage!

Gomez.

 

Our "in the news" thread started by I,Claudius is approaching 5000 posts, it's pretty insane. Ok , sorry about the hijack. Thanks for the response Richard. We promise we won't bail on you.

 

The key is "if the hardware will allow it". The RX-8 doesn't use a Ford ECU, it's a Mazda part, and the coding is encrypted. It seems that perhaps Racing Beat has cracked the ECU and is able to reprogram it, but (as far as I know) nobody else in North America has managed that feat yet. Tuning isn't necessarily the hard part - it's reprogramming or piggybacking the ECU that has stumped all the FI vendors to date.

Regards,
Gordon

 

Richard,
u live in chatsworth? Near Northride, Granada hills? If you do i used to live there when i was in the states

 

Gordon,

I'm pretty sure, from what I have been told, that Mazda uses Ford encryption, or a version of it. What I meant by the hardware statement, was that he cannot add functions (like knock sensors etc) unless the EEC has the hardware for it. Ford even went so far as to disable the "service ports" on the later EECs to prevent people from installing chips. That didn't work, he had that figured out in about 5 minutes. The new CAN stuff, no problem for him. Everyone else is scratching their heads.

I'm not saying that I KNOW he has gotton into the Mazda EEC, only that if anyone CAN do it, he would be THE GUY. He has beaten FMC every time they have tried to make it impossible to "tune", and stayed infront of them. From what I hve been told, the Mazda and Ford EECs are not worlds apart.

 

Not quite a technical discussions thread, and that thread was many political topic threads merged into one, but still quite a long thread :D

 

There is a topic, "The Official Babe Thread" on fordvschevy.com that's been going about two years. 34xx posts, 173,220 views on 117 pages of photos!

About a year ago, it crippled their server.

 

Dammit, I knew Spock was a freakin' communist, but YOU RG? :D

jds

 

LOL

 

But how much ifo did the post on the 29th Oct. provide??

None.

I am (have been for a long time) a little worried that no apparent progress has been made on this. I think it's understandable considering the length of time anthing of use was said on this subject. Maybe somebody could look this up?? (Personally, I'm not prepared to wade through multiple pages of meaningless chit-chat.)

If you think I'm getting beligerant, then YOU should go and look up the meaning of the word. Your post is more beligerant than ANY of mine have ever been.

If you want to delete posts, delete the waste of time and *bump* ones. At least that will make this thread easier to read. That's if you don't want to abuse the authority you have on this forum...

 

If you want to pick a fight with me, do it on PM...

WIMP!

 

Who the hell do you think you are anyway!

 

But putting idiots to one side, I can see that not many others are worrying about this. I DO hope RP does this. I have just seen other things go no-where on this forum before.
AND (just for the record) I wish RP every luck, but I do wish he would post something usefull once in a while and it worries me that progress isn't being made...

 

I can't help but feel partially responsible for this little tussle.

Thusly, allow me to dance for you

 

I say this: Until its your time and your MONEY going into builiding ANYTHING for our cars, shut the hell up! I am not talking about anyone in particular either. In the grand scheme of life, what the hell does it matter if ppl are bumping this thread, or going a lil off topic with the convo? So freakin what? No one is forcing anyone else to read anything on these forums. If someone wants RP to stop everything else he might be doing to work on the SC for our car, then pony up and fork over some cash to pay him to do it. Until then, lay off.

*there should be a law against drama queens*

 

Also, by complaining about lack of info from RP, or complaining about anything else on here, ppl are in fact "bumping" the thread themselves....

 

This is being belligerent, and this will probably get a warning or something. Man, please be patient. Richard is working on this project. He's been working on these kinds of projects for years, there is no reason for him to cop out on us now. Richard really likes us here(I hope so :D ) and he really doesn't seem like the kind of guy who'd just up and drop the project after all of this. These things take time, so wait patiently and you'll see good things. I really hope you think about what you're saying and don't think any less of him because he hasn't updated in a few days. Sometimes there can't be updates, I think he posted a few days ago saying he wasn't at home and couldn't do any work. He has other things to do as well, he can meet your every wish. This will get done, I can't say when, but Richard will finish it. For the record, when you post these things, you take the thread off topic. Just something to think about.

 

OK people a bump in the thread or getting a little off topic is cool. Just don't turn it into a yelling match. That'll close it down.

 

Roger that RG. No sense in hacking on a man that is trying to HELP us.....just dont get it myself. Thats all I was trying to say in case there was any confusion on that ....

 

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After sifting through every page on there I've confirmed that this is true