Axial Flow Supercharger
09-25-2007, 01:07 PM
#5277
Well, not to put too fine a point on it, but waiting for Cobb would only be a personal decision on RP's part.
Boost is boost. The EMS situation is such right now that people can make their own choice between the EMU, the Int-X, the PowerMod or whatever.
If Richard is waiting for a "magic bullet" with regards to EMS, the Cobb may be it - but it won't make any difference to the function or design of the AFSC.
Boost is boost. The EMS situation is such right now that people can make their own choice between the EMU, the Int-X, the PowerMod or whatever.
If Richard is waiting for a "magic bullet" with regards to EMS, the Cobb may be it - but it won't make any difference to the function or design of the AFSC.
09-25-2007, 01:42 PM
#5280
Well, I have an unhealthy amount of respect for Richard!
He has his reasons, I'm sure, for not believing the current crop of engine management solutions to be satisfactory.
As far as I can tell, however, the actual AFSC device isn't going to see any significant further development. It is installed on the car and in its same form as it was the previous year.
He has his reasons, I'm sure, for not believing the current crop of engine management solutions to be satisfactory.
As far as I can tell, however, the actual AFSC device isn't going to see any significant further development. It is installed on the car and in its same form as it was the previous year.
09-25-2007, 02:03 PM
#5281
taja took his word back, so ...Well, I never had a chance to get to SS, but after all these years(pictures and details), I can tell the AFSC is the result of quality craftsmanship.
Seriously speaking, I want to go FI right now, screw the warranty, but Im waiting for more options. Turbo or SC, and better engine manganment
Now for Turbo we have Greddy, Mazsport, DNA motorsport(correct me if wrong on this one)
SC we have Blitz (does it work with LHD rx8?), Petitracing SC, Hymee(coming soon), and AFSC(coming soon).
and Im waiting for more people to blow their engines up .... I mean err test them out more before I jump on the bandwagon.
09-25-2007, 02:05 PM
#5282
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Mazdatrix has the new Procharger SC. (look at my SS pics thread)
09-25-2007, 02:35 PM
#5287
Well that added a couple of pages. Still I like the attention and the "love."
Now I know to polish and chrome everything. I've always been just a tech guy and the flash stuff is extra. The real reason is I'm a racer from birth and race cars and their engines don't live long enough to even rust, so why bother.
There is one race engine builder I know who said why paint the block? "If it lives long enough to rust it wasn't being used hard enough."
"Shiny stuff is for show cars." " Tricks are for kids."
Yes MM there are reasons beyond "will it work."
Not everyone can just whip these things on like you can.
Just so everyone knows MM put the EMU into my car. Therefore he knows the kind of work it is yet he still took many hours to do it. And it's going to take a first time user twice as long. MM knows where to find the holes and where the power sorce is etc, etc. His installation will not rub wires into sheet metal and fail, first timers may not see that just yet.
Then there is cost, I need to keep the addition of he controller reasonable. I can't even mark it up. But what I said before is the real reason I like the Cobb. The Rx8 has all the hardware it needs for the job, not to use it is really poor design.
A guy just having a hand held box and hooking it into the OBD port, transfering a new Map is so much more reliable and easier. If it cost less that's just a bonus.
Also don't blame Cobb it's my fault the car is not up there yet. I offer my normal excuse about having to keep the company running by doing customer parts first. Also we will never make our money back on Rx8 kits ther has just been to much time invested in this one car. We should have started with another car first. But we didn't so be it. Hopefully down the road there will be another car we can use this blower on.
Not to say we didn't learn alot and have some fun doing it. Fun is where it's at or we wouldn't be doing anything with cars. You've seen some of the cars I've done in my life so you know it must be for fun because I never was in it for money.
Remember back when I was racing there was no money in it.
You can tell this is almost done because we are designing a V8 size one right now. Hot Rods live. I thought they were dead, they were only resting getting their energy up.
Now I know to polish and chrome everything. I've always been just a tech guy and the flash stuff is extra. The real reason is I'm a racer from birth and race cars and their engines don't live long enough to even rust, so why bother.
There is one race engine builder I know who said why paint the block? "If it lives long enough to rust it wasn't being used hard enough."
"Shiny stuff is for show cars." " Tricks are for kids."
Yes MM there are reasons beyond "will it work."
Not everyone can just whip these things on like you can.
Just so everyone knows MM put the EMU into my car. Therefore he knows the kind of work it is yet he still took many hours to do it. And it's going to take a first time user twice as long. MM knows where to find the holes and where the power sorce is etc, etc. His installation will not rub wires into sheet metal and fail, first timers may not see that just yet.
Then there is cost, I need to keep the addition of he controller reasonable. I can't even mark it up. But what I said before is the real reason I like the Cobb. The Rx8 has all the hardware it needs for the job, not to use it is really poor design.
A guy just having a hand held box and hooking it into the OBD port, transfering a new Map is so much more reliable and easier. If it cost less that's just a bonus.
Also don't blame Cobb it's my fault the car is not up there yet. I offer my normal excuse about having to keep the company running by doing customer parts first. Also we will never make our money back on Rx8 kits ther has just been to much time invested in this one car. We should have started with another car first. But we didn't so be it. Hopefully down the road there will be another car we can use this blower on.
Not to say we didn't learn alot and have some fun doing it. Fun is where it's at or we wouldn't be doing anything with cars. You've seen some of the cars I've done in my life so you know it must be for fun because I never was in it for money.
Remember back when I was racing there was no money in it.
You can tell this is almost done because we are designing a V8 size one right now. Hot Rods live. I thought they were dead, they were only resting getting their energy up.
09-25-2007, 02:48 PM
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09-25-2007, 03:02 PM
#5289
Destroying Threads
If I remembered correctly, that thing was equally as small as this one, but is fitted in the middle of the car right? and I saw their 3 module thinging, wtf, I must be on crack that day, can someone please rewind sevenstock? I cant remember jack ****, my memory seems to out focus right when we parked at the staging area, and then it flashed forward to me talking to charles r hills, that it.....wtf
09-25-2007, 04:18 PM
#5293
09-25-2007, 05:15 PM
#5294
Wow....I leave the forum for a few AFSC pages (old-skewl time 1.75 months)...and I miss SSX, taba-ho being a ho...and RP reliving the good ol days...
*sniff* good to know all is well in the world...
BTW, it took me a little bit to read thru all the new posts as I kept having to go back and fap to the new pictures...
If it wasnt for all the friction blisters I dont think I would have ever stopped to post...haaa
*sniff* good to know all is well in the world...
BTW, it took me a little bit to read thru all the new posts as I kept having to go back and fap to the new pictures...
If it wasnt for all the friction blisters I dont think I would have ever stopped to post...haaa
09-25-2007, 05:20 PM
#5295
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OMG, Twinx is alive!!!!
slaughter some pigs, grab the local virgins, a celebration is in order.
slaughter some pigs, grab the local virgins, a celebration is in order.
09-25-2007, 05:28 PM
#5296
Ha...Just barely...slowly getting reacquainted with:
1) Sunlight
2) The living
3) Reality
I don't think I'll ever get back in touch with reality tho...but somethings are simply better that way...haa...
Now I have to get back to thread-jacking, kitten posting, AFSC fapping, and MM avatar oogling...Oh and change my oil...
1) Sunlight
2) The living
3) Reality
I don't think I'll ever get back in touch with reality tho...but somethings are simply better that way...haa...
Now I have to get back to thread-jacking, kitten posting, AFSC fapping, and MM avatar oogling...Oh and change my oil...
09-25-2007, 05:31 PM
#5299
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that makes 2 of us charlie.
Tell MM he needs to PM them or we'll BAN him to the Lounge for a whole week.
Tell MM he needs to PM them or we'll BAN him to the Lounge for a whole week.