All out stock block Renesis.
01-09-2007, 05:36 PM
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It doesn't matter if he hits the goal or not. Any research and development done for increasing power in our car benefits us all.
PS: I was being serious about the spark plug wires.
PS: I was being serious about the spark plug wires.
01-09-2007, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mysql101
It doesn't matter if he hits the goal or not. Any research and development done for increasing power in our car benefits us all.
That's what I'm saying!
When you get the air horn setup all worked out will you be selling the setup as a kit or anything? That would be cool.
And yes, I realize a purely dyno queen engine would be rather pointless other than for use in a dick measuring contest, but his development will help us along, too. Just like those 500-whp Civics- they're pointless because you can't get the power to the ground, you just spin tires. And he may have to spin the engine to 12K to extract is, making it a potentially one-time use fun gernade or shrapnel, but it's still interesting to see if he can do it.
Dave
01-10-2007, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeschaefer
I bet that sucker will sound mean. Probably not too practical for street use though I would assume. What do you think?
I'm thinking one of the factors might be the lack of air filter(s). If that didn't pose too much of a problem I could see it being practical as long as power in any part of the band didn't decrease from stock. What else am I missing?
I'm thinking one of the factors might be the lack of air filter(s). If that didn't pose too much of a problem I could see it being practical as long as power in any part of the band didn't decrease from stock. What else am I missing?
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01-10-2007, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mysql101
It doesn't matter if he hits the goal or not. Any research and development done for increasing power in our car benefits us all.
PS: I was being serious about the spark plug wires.
PS: I was being serious about the spark plug wires.
/Lasse
01-10-2007, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Fanman
BTW, I didn't notice on the original post, but are you porting the engine ? That might help get some hp for you on your goal to 300 hp at the crank.
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01-10-2007, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
it's not h8ting, if you've been here long enough you understand that talk is cheap, especially big talk ...
why would somebody would even post about big plans in the first place?
why would somebody would even post about big plans in the first place?
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01-10-2007, 08:42 AM
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Thank's for the information! But why can it catch fire?
01-10-2007, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
some of you apparently dont know(the ones making comments about ebay chips) about Lasse Wankel. search his posts (starting here https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...6&page=4&pp=15 ) Hes been working with rotaries for 20+ years and has built headers and exhaust for the renesis for his 8. as you can see from the link above he even understands the need for proper flow testing. so he's not jsut one of these blowhard kids that come on once in a while with big ideas- he knows what he's doing.
not that that means he knows everything
for instance he should definetly look into those apex seals MazMart mentioned for better sealing at those higher rpms- it wont be a "stock" block at that point i think- but to get those high NA numbers its necessary.
Lasse how's your turbo coming along?
not that that means he knows everything
for instance he should definetly look into those apex seals MazMart mentioned for better sealing at those higher rpms- it wont be a "stock" block at that point i think- but to get those high NA numbers its necessary.Lasse how's your turbo coming along?
actually I've come to the opposite opinion, only because he like others insists on tuning a Renesis the same as any other rotary, such as insisting that multi-tube headers made from stainless will be the hot ticket. He's been multi-posting about making 202hp but thats on a hub dyno which is only 192 hp dynojet, 185 hp mustang. I realize it's blunt just to say it and I'm not trying to be a h8tr. Rather, I'll believe it when I see it, until then it doesn't mean much.
It's telling that those here who have a reasonable grasp on the subject are sceptical. It all sounds impressive to people who aren't very informed, no surpise who's going rah-rah and who isn't. Coming up with a new intake that actually improves upon the Mazda design is worlds apart from building a turbo system. The people turning 260 are doing it with Motec engine management, IMO a Microtech is a step backwards. No mention of porting, not going to happen without it, yet it's unknown territory on getting it right.
So it's not about h8ting, its about showing the final product. There's no skill or ingenuity involved with talking about it. I still get a laugh out of members thinking highly of somone who's talked big and never delivered, we have several here who fit the bill.
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01-10-2007, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SlideWayz
I didn't see 'turbocharger' 'intercooler' or 'supercharger' in your parts list, so there's no chance of seeing 300 HP.
01-10-2007, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RX8THELAW
lol i love how you guys assume you cant make power being naturally aspiraded ever heard of peripheral ports haahha
01-10-2007, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
As a matter of fact, the OP stated a couple of posts back:
Read the complete thread.
Read the complete thread.
01-10-2007, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
Al, this is directed at me??? I meant that there would be no porting done to the engine.
01-11-2007, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
actually I've come to the opposite opinion, only because he like others insists on tuning a Renesis the same as any other rotary, such as insisting that multi-tube headers made from stainless will be the hot ticket. He's been multi-posting about making 202hp but thats on a hub dyno which is only 192 hp dynojet, 185 hp mustang. I realize it's blunt just to say it and I'm not trying to be a h8tr. Rather, I'll believe it when I see it, until then it doesn't mean much.
It's telling that those here who have a reasonable grasp on the subject are sceptical. It all sounds impressive to people who aren't very informed, no surpise who's going rah-rah and who isn't. Coming up with a new intake that actually improves upon the Mazda design is worlds apart from building a turbo system. The people turning 260 are doing it with Motec engine management, IMO a Microtech is a step backwards. No mention of porting, not going to happen without it, yet it's unknown territory on getting it right.
So it's not about h8ting, its about showing the final product. There's no skill or ingenuity involved with talking about it. I still get a laugh out of members thinking highly of somone who's talked big and never delivered, we have several here who fit the bill.
It's telling that those here who have a reasonable grasp on the subject are sceptical. It all sounds impressive to people who aren't very informed, no surpise who's going rah-rah and who isn't. Coming up with a new intake that actually improves upon the Mazda design is worlds apart from building a turbo system. The people turning 260 are doing it with Motec engine management, IMO a Microtech is a step backwards. No mention of porting, not going to happen without it, yet it's unknown territory on getting it right.
So it's not about h8ting, its about showing the final product. There's no skill or ingenuity involved with talking about it. I still get a laugh out of members thinking highly of somone who's talked big and never delivered, we have several here who fit the bill.
I have been making 202 hp@hub and i am soon gonna bring power curves of it.
I am not gonna "brag" about making 300 hp becausse it can be say "only" 280 hp. Otherwise i will try making 300 hp with a Microtech but may use a Motec when i'm first tested the the MicroTech. So now it's up to me
/Lasse
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you could make some variable length plenums like the ones mazda used in their 4rotor racecar..that would be sweet, and you wouldnt sacrifice low end torque either......getting them to fit in an rx8, that would be interesting.
