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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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which is the hose for the venturi?

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Fuel return needs to flow into the hose for the venturi.....otherwise you will get no transfer.

Why would you leave the fuel filter in there? Just take it out...and put a screen pickup tube in there...it has to be in close proximity to the bottom of the tank or it won't pickup fuel when low...you need to rethink the pickup thing...or drive with 1/2 tank all the time
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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ah I see... the area is huge though. i just want it to be flat... besides that looks quite expensive. belt sander i'll be borrowing will be free. and for gasket, i'll be using mazda gasket and some squeeze on gasket for the coarse grooves left by sanding.

as for coating, i'll probably end up ceramic coating everything later. i just can't afford them right now.
you will probably be ok with the belt sander. just from my experience (not knowing how to use one correctly) the belt sander is only something I use for very rough finishing.

that example was a fancy CNC milling center, most shops would have a simpler setup. it shouldn't be that expensive talk to a few machinists and you will probably find one that will help you out.
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Old Jan 2, 2009 | 06:54 PM
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the venturi tube is attached to the hose that comes from the FPR discharge

The FPR is gone in that picture...If you have a picture with the hoses on the stock pump it will be easier to explain
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 09:04 AM
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http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...v/IMG_5776.jpg
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this is joel's setup. return is going to the original fuel send line. and he drilled two holes for the fuel send line.

i'm guessing he's picking up the fuel from the fuel canister directly outside of the filter chamber. am i correct?
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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joel, did you leave the stock oem pump in there pumping directly into the stock fuel canister? then have two external pumps suck fuel from the stock fuel canister directly?
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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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ok I think this is what joel and PR guys are doing... can someone confirm before I start drilling?

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Old Jan 3, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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You have another picture of the can without the filter and pump ....

The venturi is attached to the other end of the line that goes to the passenger side.....lets try it in reverse

You can't just dump the return into the can or it won't work

Also...are you using the OEM in can fuel filter?? Can't see that taking the flow that you need

You will need the piickups designed so they are very near the bottom of the cup when the lid is closed as well
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 02:35 AM
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Can anyone help explain on this system more, as i will build one base on this as well.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 10:00 AM
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mm okay. so return back into the filter canister.

joel also mentioned that i need to attach the pump outputs from the canisters as well.

so i'm going to use the original send line for return back into the filter canister.

i'm also going to somehow attach AN-10 output from the canister directly.

as for using the oem pump, could I just punch some holes on the bottom of the canister? or do i need the oem pump? looks like if i stick the oem pump in there, that'll always be the bottle neck with buffer amount being limited to the small canister size.

and how would I take that oem filter out? i want to take it out, but only way I see this being possible is if i cut the bottom out from the canister.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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my OEM pump is out...It serves no purpose.. on my setup that is.

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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 10:41 AM
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hey joel, how is your fuel filter canister sucking fuel from the tank without the oem pump?
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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remember what used to be your return line (OEM return line) now is going to be your breather line. You need to conect it to your intake ( outside the throttle) make sure you put a check valve so that no boost goes in your tank
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana
hey joel, how is your fuel filter canister sucking fuel from the tank without the oem pump?
The OEM canister you mean??
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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yea the oem canister. in the original rx8, the oem canister used to receive fuel with the oem fuel pump... but without it, how is it getting fuel?

if i could just see a photo of your modified oem canister

I want to know how you attached the fittings... everything's pretty tight, and how that filter canister is receiving fuel from the tank.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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Man I wish I met you before.. You would have your car running long time ago.. OH I forgot to tell you I opened a business (officially). We are now making engine swaps (with ruff racing Florida).
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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did you take out the filter from the oem canister?
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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haha i wish that everyday. but eh.. what's done is done.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:03 AM
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joel , u just make 2 hole and put 2 an fittings in ? would it be able to suck the fuel properly ?

Thanks.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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it gets fuel from the bottom. If you check the assembly you will notice that the oem pump sucked fuel from the existing( in the canister) not from the tank.. That is the whole purpose of the canister. It has a valve in the bottom that lets fuel in the can but not out... Check for your self. Thats the only reason mne is working. And has worked and will continue to do so... If you are getting an external canister then that is a different ball game. You could use the oem pump to fill that one up...
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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remember you are putting the return line into your OEM feed line. So your OEM pump has nowhere to feed fuel to...
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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btw... what i meant by oem canister is this...

that has no holes on the bottom... do I drill it?
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by davidykhor
joel , u just make 2 hole and put 2 an fittings in ? would it be able to suck the fuel properly ?

Thanks.
no, its a little more complicated than that. I will try to take my assembly out again and post spome pics... you need specifick inserts ( fittings) and aluminum lines to go to the bottom of the canister.
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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i think what you were thinking as "oem canister" was this:
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by stickmantijuana
btw... what i meant by oem canister is this...

that has no holes on the bottom... do I drill it?
that is not what I meant as canister
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Old Jan 4, 2009 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by angeljoelv
no, its a little more complicated than that. I will try to take my assembly out again and post spome pics... you need specifick inserts ( fittings) and aluminum lines to go to the bottom of the canister.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh okay.

let me draw this out.
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