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stickmantijuana 10-18-2008 12:50 AM

20B must go on
 
I decided I'm not going to let a con-artist ruin my plans.

and PLEASE stay on topic (20b). If you need the whole story, please visit:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.php?t=158568

Bottomline is I need to buy everything and do and re-do everything. More importantly, I also need your help.

Anyway, onto the goodies:
MUCH thanks to rgonza & manuel, Atkins,Pettit, and Jonitauto

Haltech E11v2 with long flying lead kit + 20b harness
M&W ignition coils with ferrite core and M&W CDI boxes
Fluidyne oil coolers and fuel coolers
Remote oil housing
Re-speed Oil housing adapter to remote housing
Fuel rail
Aeromotive A1000 FPR
BOSCH 044 pumps x 2
Oil meter pump w/ o-ring
6 NGK platinum 9-temp plugs
Innovate Wideband gauge/sensor
Turbosmart 60mm wastegate
HKS 60mm BOV
10ft AN-10 line for fuel
10ft AN-10 line for return
10ft AN-12 line for oil
Oil catchcan
water overflow can
Kevlar AN-16 for coolant
CSR electric water pump for dual outlets

20b engine will be REBUILT. too many stories of Scott's engine blowing up on rx7club and here. I'd love some recommendations for reputed rotary engine builder near west PA if possible..

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So in essence, it's like I never paid any money for the swap yet! But I don't have a kid yet, so in the end, I think it'll all work itself out. :cussing:

My approach will be:
1. figure out what i need then order everything
2. figure out and fill up holes in the engine with fittings
3. buy missing oem stuff
4. fuel system
5. water/oil
6. wires/ignition boxes/coils/hooking up with factory ecu
7. rebuild 20b
8. mechanical pedal linkages
9. buy more shit for the rx7 tranny and 20b engine that scott never sent

I can only work on weekends, and I'll start once all my parts are here.

slimjimrx8 10-18-2008 01:00 AM

best of luck with it be sure 2 keep everyone updated and pics

Renesis_8 10-18-2008 01:38 AM

Hi stick,

Are you still planning to stick with the original plan to move the engine back as far back as possible? Judging from the custom made Mazsport lower intake, your engine is pushed back VERY far. I hope you could stick with that!

Would be great if this thread stays open =) Stick is probably the king of locked thread. Good luck with your build, and I hope you get your "funding" ;)
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kersh4w 10-18-2008 02:20 AM

that 20b is in an insanely nice spot. should be a really nice car to drive once you get everything sorted out.

remixlp 10-18-2008 04:20 AM

keep your head up and show them you can do it dude.

bse50 10-18-2008 05:04 AM

I'm happy that you're going on with your project. Wouldn't it be easier\faster to find somebody actually capable of doing such swaps instead of working on the car on weekends? A DYI will help us all figure out what's a 20b swap like though.

chrism 10-18-2008 06:34 AM

stick we got 2 really good builders up here a little more east of you....let me know if your interested and ill pm you my number....ill even take a drive over with you so you feel more comfortable about it...now your up here where we take care of our people

stickmantijuana 10-18-2008 07:48 AM

i'd probably end up using the same position because i have about 50% of what i need to keep the engine in that position.

cm, pm'd.

BigRed 10-18-2008 07:51 AM

good luck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chrism 10-18-2008 08:01 AM

stick i gotcha.....as a community we will make it happen!

Jedi54 10-18-2008 08:55 AM

Good luck Stick!
have you found out who will be doing the work?

expo1 10-18-2008 09:56 AM

Stick, I would look into sending your 20b to Paul from Mazmart. I can't think of one negative thing said about him, or the work of his shop. I have a rebuilt renesis from Paul and the whole process was smooth.

chrism 10-18-2008 11:10 AM

i can agree with expo on that too....or rotary ressurection...heard nothing but good from them

ShellDude 10-18-2008 11:29 AM

subscribed... this one has got to end on a positive note!

05rex8 10-18-2008 06:20 PM

can't wait to see the progress

btw that LIM Scott made kinda looks funny imo :D:

rddragoness 10-18-2008 09:37 PM

Subscribed....good luck fellow rotorhead! :D:

SiLVeRE8 10-19-2008 04:10 AM

when the 20b is done it will be priceless because you have gone through to many challenges and still managed to not give up on your project! this really inspires me because you have a crazy story behind your 20b which everybody knows about. the journey of this build is tough, but it will all be worth it in the end. i wish you the best of luck!!

Hybridesque 10-19-2008 04:27 AM

Good luck dude, hope you end up with the car you've dreamed of.

arghx7 10-19-2008 09:12 AM

what are you using for a turbo manifold/wastegate/turbo combination? That will greatly affect fitment.

stickmantijuana 10-19-2008 02:05 PM

i'll have a professional welder weld the wg flange on the exhaust manifold that i received from mazsport.

as for turbo, gt42.

as for downpipe, i need to either make a new one or most likely add a slight bend to the existing one to clear the subframe.

well for now, can't do much until things get here (ordered M&W stuff and haltech ecu). that also means that i may start on wiring first since i'll have the harness and stuff.

i have a few questions though:
1. what do you guys recommend i do about heat-insulating the wires and protecting them from interference and moisture?

2. i'll post rest of my questions on the photos.

thanks all.

stickmantijuana 10-19-2008 02:40 PM

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apologies for all the basic questions. current situation doesn't allow me to hire a professional rotary mechanic. and i just have to start somewhere, so here i go.

about the first photo.

#1 will have fabricated adapter connected to remote filter housing

#2 is engine oil fill hole. about #2, some people install vacuum ports here, what's the reason behind it? is this where i would install the oil catch can?

#3 are these water lines for the heater? seems to be running with brake lines, so i was curious.

and where is the power steering pump located in the rx8?

as for the second picture, what do you guys recommend I use to hook up these injector ports? they have no threads or anything.

thanks!

stickmantijuana 10-19-2008 03:15 PM

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how should i plug the turbo oil ports?

pics attached. just wondering whether to use the o-ring or just teflon tape once again.

turbo's water-cooled, so i'll be just blocking these off.

stickmantijuana 10-19-2008 03:17 PM

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last question of the day :)

how would i plug these injector holes permanently?

thanks in advance.

Kane 10-19-2008 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by stickmantijuana (Post 2689608)
how should i plug the turbo oil ports?

pics attached. just wondering whether to use the o-ring or just teflon tape once again.

turbo's water-cooled, so i'll be just blocking these off.

A plug with teflon tape should work ok. Even BB Turbo's have both oil lines and water lines.

Kane 10-19-2008 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by stickmantijuana (Post 2689586)
apologies for all the basic questions. current situation doesn't allow me to hire a professional rotary mechanic. and i just have to start somewhere, so here i go.

about the first photo.

#1 will have fabricated adapter connected to remote filter housing

#2 is engine oil fill hole. about #2, some people install vacuum ports here, what's the reason behind it? is this where i would install the oil catch can?

#3 are these water lines for the heater? seems to be running with brake lines, so i was curious.

and where is the power steering pump located in the rx8?

as for the second picture, what do you guys recommend I use to hook up these injector ports? they have no threads or anything.

thanks!

On the injectors; a Fuel Rail needs to go there; it will hold the injectors in place and also provide tthem with fuel.


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