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Old 05-09-2004, 09:27 PM
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been wanting a system for the 8 for a while back and this is what i was given for what "they recommend":

Boston acoustic tweeter for mid dashboard speaker
Boston Acoustic's Z6's in front
the normal Bostone acoustic Proseries 6.5's in back
JL w7 10' in a custom box in the back.
all ran with 2 Eclipse amps 1 for sub and one for speakers


what do u think? sound nice, yay or nay? any advice plz
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any helpers??
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Should sound great. Some would say you should match the rear speakers with the front. The shop I went to also recommended the Boston Pro Series - $450 - a little pricey for my ears. I'll probably go with some JLs all around.

How much power do those amps have?
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why 6.5s in the back--they can take 6x9s--just curious. i'm thinkin of going with Infinity Reference 5x7/6x8 component in the front with infinity reference 3 way 6x9s in the back--pushed by an Audiobahn 4 channel amp. After that is done I'll see what kind of sub I'll use--I'm leaning toward a bazooka tube for conservation of space. Not really looking for BANG just nice bass--I don't want to draw the wrong attention to the car.
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Boston Acoustics sells some nice 6x9s that would be a good replacement for the existing Bose ones in the rear deck.
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You can normally get much better quality 6.5 components than 6x9s. When rear speakers are just for fill (played very low compared to the front), you don't need as good of a quality speaker in the rear. But if you have them play stronger, or for rear listeners, you want to have good quality back there.

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The number one rule of any good audio system is that all of the speakers should sound the same. It makes sense that they should be the same in order to accomplish this. I do not like 6X9's of any other oval speaker for that matter. Many people do and this is just a personal preference. Even a Boston 6X9 will not sound like another Boston speaker of a different size. Different series speakers sound different as well. Either use all pros or all Z6's. Do not mix and match. You may find that even a nicely matched bottom line speaker sounds better than a top and bottom line mixed together. Keep them the same. I would recommend the Focal 160ZLT component set from Zalytron. Look them up. It is a wonderful sounding 6.5" component set for only $139. I personally think it sounds better than any Boston set at any price but again that is a personal opinion. It uses the same TN45 tweeter as the other Focal sets but uses the 160ZLT 4 ohm home audio woofer. It is a wonderful sounding 6.5" speaker. I would get 2 of these sets. One front and rear.

I would not just use only a tweeter for the center channel. If you really want to get trick and don't have the nav system, cut into the top of the dash and install another 6" and tweeter to match so you have 5 matching sets in the car. This would be perfect. Realistically though just remove the center altogether.
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I hunted around a bit on the http://www.Zalytron.com website, and did not find the 160ZLT set you mention, nor did I find a search function. Could you tell me where this set is listed?

Secondly, why not put a 7" or 8" in everywhere? Why the 6.5 inch size?

Finally, in the front, doesn't Focal make a 3" replacement unit? Or will it really make a diff to just leave the Bose unit there? With the Focals in place, I wouldn't think you'd really hear it...
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Go to Zalytron's website. Click on car audio from the left. A couple of sentences down on that page will be mention of the kit but no picture. If you look around the site hard enough, you can find a picture of the woofer and tweeter in the individual states.

I would either find a way to use a 6 1/2" in the dash which would take a deal of work, or I would disconnect the center altogether.

You could run a larger speaker but there really isn't a need to. A larger speaker radiates sound over a larger area. With the confines of a car, this causes more potential for frequency cancellation. Smallest is best for clarity reasons but sometimes doesn't get the low frequencies. A 6 1/2" is a good all around size to do both good. Subs don't matter as much about size and pointsource though because wavelengths at their frequencies are so long that you can't hear a few inches difference. Some high frequencies are only fractions of an inch long. It all depends on frequency.
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Originally posted by jonny
why 6.5s in the back--they can take 6x9s--just curious. i'm thinkin of going with Infinity Reference 5x7/6x8 component in the front with infinity reference 3 way 6x9s in the back--pushed by an Audiobahn 4 channel amp. After that is done I'll see what kind of sub I'll use--I'm leaning toward a bazooka tube for conservation of space. Not really looking for BANG just nice bass--I don't want to draw the wrong attention to the car.
I had Infinity kappa 6X9's in my CRX with the bazooka - that was the best sounding system I ever heard. The kappas are a little more pricey than the reference, so when I got the systems together for my SUV a few years later, I went with the reference line. I was never happy, and wish I spent a few more $$for the kappas. They are brighter, and have more clarity in the low to mid range than the reference, which I think balances nicer with the bazooka which tends to be a bit boomy at times.
just my 02
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Hoffa, Are you still allive?

I thought Bruce Allmighty found you in a NYC park, Hoffa?



Personal experience. . . you can make anything sound great. It is not your components it is the system as a whole. Flatten your frequency response, get your volume increments equal, and then you will have a perfect recording studio setting. But at the same time, this may sound like crap to your ear. You simply need to decide what you want to hear, buy some equipment that you think will get you there, and then adjust. If you like bass, focus on that. If you like range, then focus on the highs and lows. Once you have your components, you can adjust the settings and EQ's to make it sound like you prefer.

Screw the brand; it's all about the ears.

enjoy the ride.
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