Superfan

Okay guy's I'm trying to figure out if these things actually work. Right now I'm looking at the products offered by Rocky Mountain Radar. I've found a few reviews and they seem to be legit. My best friend is a cop so If I do buy one I can have him paint the car with his radar gun just to verify if it actually works.

brownchiro

I do not know about those, but I have a Lidatek (lidatek.com) that gets the laser. Bought it through group buy when I bought my WRX.

StealthTL

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No, they don't work.

The Rocky Mtn 'passive' junk is a virtual rip-off, as far as I'm concerned.

They will reflect a spurious signal back at close range (close as in 25 feet.) Just enough to convince you on the store.......but as soon as you get outside they lose it.

Various groups have tested them, C&D, R&T etc.
I particularly like the one done by the Ferrari Owners Club, very un-biased.

The 'Blinders', properly installed, will protect against laser guns from the front, and the only effective radar jammers were the 'active' ones, long since banned by the FCC. And of course using them would be illegal.



Your best defense is a good detector, Bel '9' series are cheap and sensitive.
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Sputnik

Active radar jamming (where a unit blasts out radio waves in the appropriate frequencies to "blind" the radar gun) will work, but it is illegal. It is against FCC regulations (meaning it is illegal in every town, county, and state), and the law allows a fine up to $100,000 (and I think it might even be a felony, but I'd have to check on that again). Mind you, that law also covers radio piracy and the like, so I doubt that someone simply jamming traffic radar will incur the maximum fine.

And it is very easy to tell if your radar gun is being actively jammed, so it is very easy to get caught. And you probably aren't going to be able to talk your way out of that ticket.

Passive radar jamming (where a unit "reflects" the radar waves in such a way that the radar gun cannot get a reading, or gets a false reading) is legal. But, there has never been a case where independent testing showed that those devices do anything at all, needless to say are effective against traffic radar. There have been several companies over the years that have produced these things, but they have closed and changed names to avoid all of the lawsuits brought against them for selling and advertising false claims about their worthless products.

---jps

BRx8

yes, i have read in a variety of other publications that these radar jammers DO NOT work...they are like those "internal antennas" for cell phones...

Gord96BRG

Check out the reviews of Rocky Mountain Radar equipment at www.radartest.com - it's worthless junk that has never worked.

Regards,
Gordon

Superfan

StealthTL & Sputnik thanks for the info. I've found a few places in the UK that sell active radar jammers. I'm already breaking the law by speeding. I know two wrongs don't make a right but if an active jammer might get me out of a ticket I might consider using one. Most cops are oblivious to these devices so they might attribute it to a malfunction in their equipment. Just for the record I don't street race, speed in traffic or residential areas. I just think it's unfair to get a speeding ticket when the only life you're putting in jeopardy is your own.

Superfan

After some serious thought, I'm just going to get a good detector. It's easier to hit the brakes than get out of jail for using a jammer that might not even work.

P00Man

heres an idea:
cover your car in RAM (radar absorbing material), three or 4 coats should do it (though i dont really know), id doubt theyd even get a signal back, and id doubt theres anything against it. probably pretty pricey though. even if you do get caught as somehow avoiding their detection, they wouldnt fnd any electronics and would probably not be wise to the paint job.
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ShawnC

What about Valentine1? I heard good things about them. I was thinking about getting one.

Sputnik

They work very very well, and the directional antennae is more useful than you would think at first. It really helps in identifying false alarms, among other things.

---jps

siin

Radar absorbing paint is very effective but unsightly on a car. It can however be painted on the back side of motorcycle fairing to make the bike invisible to x, k and ka radar. Furthermore you can install IR emitters in the front headlight and rear tail light for jamming laser radar to make your Gixxer 1000 radar proof. www.plans-kits.com has anti-radar paint similar to that used by the Stealth bomber to make it radar proof. We install RF shielding around the world and found that the PK paint works very very well.

IWANTMYRX8

Don't forget bout those unmarked cars that pace....And they dont have to be directly behind you to pace u either. Be careful all....
(And no one has mentioned it yet, but to nip it in the bud...A cop does NOT have to show you the radar lock if you get pulled over using radar. That is just a common misconception)

I like the idea of repainting your entire car though. How much? (j/k w/ya gettinan8) :D

siin

the cost of the RAP radar absorbing paint is actually low considering what it does. i was surprised to see how cheaply they sell it on the website. the paint that the US gov uses on the stealth fighter is about 5-10 grand $$$ per bucket. the paint leaves a dull metallic glow on the surface...not bad looking but i would want it put on professionally by a cheap paint shop.

i think the last price i saw was $150 or so for 1 gallon which is enough to do a small hatchback or motorcycle.

z00m-z00m

I am looking into jammers myself just for R&D type stuff. The rocky mountain by a friend came highly recommended however radartests.com says they arnt anything. Then again that say sime says v1 is overpriced and not as good as the other ones so im not so certain.

Anyone actually own a Rocky Mountain Radar Detect/Jam Combo unit?

93rdcurrent

You might also want to check into the Excort SRX.

Sputnik

I would question this friend's advice from now on, at least in the realm of radar equipment. It's not just Radartest that has determined that available passive radar jammers are worthless. Every independent site and car magazine that has tested them over the years (like Car and Driver, Road and Track, etc.) has come to the same conclusion.

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...Then again that say sime says v1 is overpriced and not as good as the other ones so im not so certain...

Well, read the whole test, and you'll see why Craig rated the V1 as he did. Even his testing shows the performance aspects of the V1 are very good.
FYI, that only includes a laser jammer, not a radar jammer.

---jps

93rdcurrent

Correct and unfortunately the radar jammer is illegal. The FCC gets very upset about it since it has a fairly decent range and screws up all kinds of radio signals from my understanding.