magixpuma

Does any 1 know of any good companies and does it work with manual. as long as you have it in neutral and the e brake on.

mdw33333

No "reputable" shop will install a remote start sytem on a manual transmission vehicle.

magixpuma

can you embelish on that ... "explain some more Im not to smart when it comes to cars.... Also I live where it gets from 10 with out wind chill and up to 90+ in the summer but i really just want it for the winter.

Elara

Your car has to be in neutral to start. You should always leave a manual transmission in gear when you park. Therefore, it's not really a good idea to put a remote start in a manual. I'm sure there are other, more technical reasons, but I'm not very technically inclined either, so maybe someone else will chime in.

hotpot

And why is that?
When I park my car in the garage I put it in neutral. And I don't even lift up the handbrake sometimes.

Elara

I'm guessing you guys didn't learn to drive on manuals. Not that that's a bad thing, in itself, but manuals are not the same as automatics in many ways, and this is one of them. Your car can roll very easily in neutral, especially with no handbrake. Try giving your car a push in either direction in neutral without the brake on. Even I can move mine like that. I've actually had an accident like this(not with the 8), where I just left it in neutral and but with the handbrake on. The brake wasn't strong enough, and the car rolled out of the parking space and backwards into a barrier. If it's really cold, like below freezing, you're not supposed to put the handbrake on, in which case you should ALWAYS make sure the car is in gear, 1st if you're facing uphill, reverse if you're facing down hill. Even slight grades will allow your car to roll. It's not worth taking the chance that your car won't go anywhere, just because you think you're on a level surface.

hotpot

If I'm outside of home I would park it in gear only if it's on a visible incline. Otherwise the handbrake should be good enough.
But there's no chance of my car rolling away when it's parked in the garage. We don't have earthquakes here.

RotaryFeeling

You probably won't be able to find remote start for an auto either. The ECU requires the unique code signature from the chip in the key, and if it does not detect that, it WILL not start. Makes it a VERY hard car to steal without the key, but a pain when it comes to remote start.

Speed Racer

There are a couple of remote starters on the market that are designed to work safely with a manual transmission.

The AstroFlex 3601M is one that I'm familiar with. I had a similar one (i.e. older version) installed in my last car. The "M" version uses a pair of LEDs and optical sensors to verify that the transmission is in neutral. This makes it impossible to accidentally start the car when it is in gear but as Elara said there are times when you must leave the car in gear. Which is anytime the car is left on an incline. It also checks to see if the parking brake is on. If you shut the car off without setting the parking brake and leaving it in neutral it will beep to let you know that the remote starter circuit is disabled. All-in-all it is a very safe setup.

rjacobs

Bypassing the key chip circuit is really easy and pretty cheep. I was advised against buying one of those modules you program and it fools the car into thinking the right key is there. The place I had mine done on my jeep had me go buy an extra key and program it to the car and then grind off the key part leaving only the part with the chip. Then they zip tied it to some wiring by the ignition/sensor. It works all the time and never needs reprogramming like the add on modules some times do. Keys are like 50 bucks or something or you can use the valet key(since I dont trust a valet with my car).

JSE RX-8

i have an automatic RX-8 and i bought a remote starter from the dealership and had them install it. the first day i took the car home, the starter blew a fuse and would not let me start the car, so the car had to be towed back to the dealership. when i brought the car home the next day, the windows wouldnt go down. Another blown fuse and the car went back to the dealership. i had the dealership remove the starter and i havent had a problem since. so i would forget the remote starter whether you have a manual or automatic RX-8.

flatso

I heard on a hill even in gear and parking brake the rotary can roll is that true?

And off topic but the keyless start I like is the one that you keep the key in your pocket and the doors unlock when you approach the car and then all you have to do is push a starter button to get going, you do not insert the key. Pretty cool but right now only on a few cars.

Elara

Not any more so than a piston engine- there's nothing intrinsically different about the brake and clutch, the way there is with the engine.

mdw33333

Ok, I'll give you all the break down on remote start systems and bypassing the factory immobilzer system. First, the immobilzer issue, is smply dealt with. The proper method for bypassing it for remote start is to use a module that actually contains an ignition key. You must provide your installer with a spare key, whether it be one you already have, or one you have to have made at the dealer. We take this key and insert it inside the bypass module. The module is activated by the remote start, and then sends the signal from the key up to the ignition cylinder sensor ring. The ring verifies the signal from the key and allows the vehicle to remote start.

There is a problem with the method mentioned in an above post. By tying the key up to the sensor ring near the ignition key cylinder, you will end up "confusing" the immobilzer system. This can happen when you stick your ignition key into the cylinder and start the car. the sensor ring can/will read the chips of both keys in the area and become confused. This will cause the system to think it's being tampered with and it will prevent the car from starting at all.

At my shop we install Viper (DEI) and Audiovox remote start systems. They are numbers 1 and 2 in worldwide market share when referring to remote start systems. We use the DEI 555U bypass module for the method I've mentioned.

As for installation of remote start on the the RX8 in general, I've looked the wiring over and it looks no harder than the average newer car. I've always had remote starts on previous vehicles, but I have no plans of installing one on my 8. The units that are said to be designed for use on manual transmission vehicles are usally made my some of the lesser known names in the industry (as with the unit mentioned in an above post), and aren't to my liking. I have little confidence in the methods in which these units "sense" when your vehicle is in gear.

Some people may install remote start on they're manual RX8's, and most will do so by bypassing the clutch switch all together. This will allow the car to start without having to depress the clutch. There's nothing wrong with doing that if you can remember to keep it in neutral when you plan to use the remote start.

I've done it on my last the manuals, a 90 Honda CRX, a 97 Toyota Tacoma, and a 01 Corolla. Of those three, I only remote start one in gear. It was the CRX and it slammed into a brick wall, cracking the front bumper cover. Oh well, it was just a beater!

pauleta

Does that totally defeat the immobilizer making it that much easier to steal?

pauleta

I think the new Honda Insight has that.

mdw33333

No, the module only sends the signal from the key to the sensor ring when the remote start is engaged. At all other times the immobilzer is fully functional. If someone entered the vehicle, and knew that you had a remote start installed, and had knowledge of where to find the bypass module, they could retrieve the key from the module and use it to start the car. Possible, but in most cases unlikely.

huhsler

Concur, highly unlikely. Especially since they would've theoretically bypassed the alarm to be IN the car, as well. If they didn't and they try to start the car with the key, what happens? On mine, it won't start either.

I think that mdw, like most experienced alarm installers, will also offer to cut the actual key portion of your key off, before placing it in the bypass module. That way, you're protected both ways and are only out a valet key.

Demon Speeding

I'm looking for a reputable remote starter/alarm combo. The shop where I plan on installing one offers a ZR 45 from TRC? Tried looking it up but can't find anything. I have AT and was just wondering what type of starter works best and is not too pricey. They are asking $390 installed. It is the only one they offer. Not too many places here in Louisiana that I can find nearby that do all that fancy stuff. They used to use Code remote starters but had too many problems with them. Just wondering....let me know what you think...this lil lady needs help!

RX4life

a car rolls with the aid of its transmission not engine.. the rotary nor the piston engine .. have anythin to do with rollin... its all in the transmission.. and as far as i know the transmissions are the same in both ... when the car is engaged in 1st gear.. the transmission wont let the car roll back because its locked in a gear that propels the car forward... and vice versa for reverse...locks it in reverse so the car wont go forward..