DIY: RB Gauge Pod + Nordskog Digital Gauges
 

I've always liked the idea of the Racing Beat Gauge pod but I never truly cared for the gauges that come with it. After some research and help from a forum member, I decided on trying out the Nordskog Street Digital's. The bonus to using the digital gauges is it eliminates the need to run Stainless steel lines (of hot fluids) into the back of the gauge pod. A leak there would be really bad.

If you're thinking of going this route, here's what you'll need.

- Racing Beat Pod ($115 + shipping)
- Water Temperature Gauge $66
- Oil Pressure Gauge ($66)
- Oil Temperature Gauge($66)
- Racing Beat Oil Pressure and Temperature Sensor Adaptor ($64)
- Racing Beat Water Temperature Sensor Adapter ($29)
- Nordskog Pressure Sending Unit ($36)
- Nordskog Temperature Sending Unit ($16 x 2)

Update on Nordskog As of 9/15/2009, Nordskog has ceased operations indefinitely so you will no longer be able to buy these gauges. All you have to do is substitute another gauge manufacturer and follow the instructions below and you should be all set.

Other Misc items:
- Wire cutters
- hose clams
- teflon tape
- grounding clamp for oil pressure sender
- electrical wiring
- zip ties
- soldering gun (optional)
- flex guard (optional)
- Racing Beat Installation instructions. Most of these instructions are still relevant even though we're running the wires through a different area.
- Oil Filter
- 4 quarts of 5w-20
- Standard tools: ratchet set, screwdriver, exacto knife
-Vampire clips
- box of end connectors (male and female)

When you're ready to begin, you should have a countertop that looks similar to this:
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Pre-assemble everything. The area around the oil filter is VERY compact and you will not have room to maneuver.

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Follow the Racing Beat instructions for installing the Water Temperature Adapter. Since these wires have to run across the entire engine bay in order to get into the cabin of the vehicle, I used some flex guard to hide the wires. (2nd pictures) Your finished product will look like:

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Follow Racing Beat instruction on installing the Oil Adapter. You will want to do an oil change on your car at this point. Finished product will look like: (excuse the crappy picture)

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Now it's time to ground everything and start running some wires. Thanks to forum member Elf for doing the legwork on this one. (borrowed from his thread)

Please excuse the dirty engine bay ... didn't get a chance to clean it before the pics were taken.

Requirements:
* Exacto knife
* Being a contortionist and double-jointed helps a lot working underneath the dash and steering wheel


Water temp sending unit:
Body of sending unit grounded with hose clamp and wire to the chassis

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Oil pressure and temperature sending unit:
Body of the oil pressure sending unit grounded with a larger hose clamp and wire; body of the oil temperature sending unit can be seen above (behind) and to the right of the large oil pressure sending unit. It was grounded the same way as the water temp sending unit. Just a side note: it's best to connect and tighten ALL the sending units and wires to the RB oil adapter before you install the adapter --- you won't have very much room to turn wrenches down there once it's installed.

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Both the grounding wires of the oil pressure and temp sending units were attached here (near the brake master cylinder and hood hinge area)

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Routing wires from the cabin to the engine bay:
Access to the engine bay can be made through the large rubber grommet just above and to the right of the clutch pedal. This grommet already supplies a large bundle of wires to the engine bay, but by cutting a slit in the grommet, in the trough surrounding the existing wire bundle, you can push your wires through to the engine bay. They'll exit just below the master brake cylinder.

Rubber grommet is just behind the brake pedal in this picture

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Close-up of the grommet. Note that there's kind of a rubber flap that straddles and covers the large wire bundle --- this can be lifted up and out of the way for better access to the grommet. You can see the wires (six 18-gauge wires and two larger black wires for the Tein EDFC) that I fed through just inside the rubber-like flap that covers the grommet. I used the Exacto knife to cut a 0.5 inch (approx.) slit in the trough for the wires. I tried resealing that section with silicone sealant, but it got a little messy (and probably not necessary anyway).

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The rubber grommet is difficult to get to and running wires through is just as much fun. One trick I used here was to puncture a small hole using a sharp knife and then wedge a long socket into the grommet. This will allow a passage way for you to run all the wires.


Once you have the wires through the gromet, remove the socket and seal with silicone. The wires will then be run underneath the steering column and towards the back of the center dash. You'll need a few zip ties here so you don't have any wires hanging loose that could eventually get caught on something.

Here is where the soldering gun came in handy for me.
Instead of running 3 grounds (one per gauge) and tapping 3 wires off of the power source, I ran ONE wire, and soldered 3 small wires off of the source. A screw on wire tap would accomplish this same goal, its up to you which route you want to take.

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The Nordskog gauge instruction will walk you the rest of the way as far as wiring the gauges. The Racing Beat instructions will once again come in handy for tapping into the light that used to be in your cigarette lighter compartment. This will allow the gauges to dim by 50% when you turn on the lights. Remember to pay close attention as to which wire goes where. If everything is connected properly it should look something like:


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Thanks to forum member Newcastle for assisting in the installation. We actually installed this mod on both of our cars.
Side note: this is not a HARD mod to install, it will just require some patience, some general mechanical skills, and lots of time. Set aside a 3-4 hours on a weekend and I'm sure you'll find that your time was well worth it.

If there's pictures of anything else you need just let me know and I'll either post them right up or go out to the garage and take them.

nice job Jedi!

Sticky!!!!

very nice install i plan on running the same setup as you very soon glad to see pictures and details!

whoa, very nicely done jedi....


p.s. - i really like those footwell lights you got!

the power of the schwarzzzzzzz compellzzzzz me....

bump for your stickyness!!!


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nice work jorge....youre always involved in a top notch project...

Very nice! Seems like a great solution. Sticky this for sure.

I was curious after you coolant has warmed up how much longer does it generally take for the oil to warm up? I am just curious how long after my coolant needle reaches its max can I really run her hard.

Thanks everyone! Glad to see you guys like my work and the requests for a sticky are a great compliment. Maybe the mods will listen and grant this a sticky. :D:

RX8: I am running the High flow pump from Mazmart so my coolant temps change a little faster then with the OEM. At highway cruising speeds the temperature of the water is approx. 182 degrees. Usually a minute or two after that the oil has settled somewhere in the 165-170 range and you can start driving agressively.

Oh, I forgot to mention one of the best features of these Nordskog gauges. All the gauges have a recall button (little black thing at the bottom)

You can recall the highest reading since the last time your car was turned on. The oil pressure gauge will tell you the lowest AND highest pressure it's logged.

and.........another advantage is that they are digital...my wideband is digital...wish i could have afforded to get the boost and water temp in digital...

if youve got cash to throw around, nexus is the way to go....

youve got an excellent set up jorge..

very nice look and good write up..

thx.

beers :beer:

Looks great! Nice job.

jedi i remember alot of things you said you bought, but i did not know you bought out radio shack...

ok sorry i forgot, this was a two car deal..

That looks really nice, matches the interior very well. Digital readout is the way to go for that location.

HAHA!! The Radio Shack guys kept giving me funny looks, they must have thought I was building a bomb. :cool:

nice jedi, i was looking to put on such gauges too... but seems too complicated for me. do you know any shop which can do it for me or how long do you take to install those?

that set up is off the chain, jorge! haha well done!!!!

nice detailed instructions too

Stickyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!

Very nice indeed.

Now what are thecons concerning digital gauges over mechanical?

if you mean cons of electrical versus mechanical, they run off the 12 Volt power. if your electrical system goes haywire it can affect your readings. but electrical gauges now-a-days are pretty reliable.

I really like this mod, especially the fact that only wires run into the cabin.
This is going on my list of things to do.

Very slick, nice detail in the write up.

Only problem now is where are you gonna put your weed? :)

Jedi, anyway we can local meet up help me out if i wanted to install?..lol =]

sticky???

how much did the 3 electric gauges cost you?

im gonna buy the rb gauge pod in the new few months. but digital looks really nice.

how much can you sell the oe gauges?

The guages were purchased from www.summitracing.com for approximately $66 each.
The RB pod can be purchased sepeately for $96
At the end of the project you pretty much break even going digital (and buying the parts yourself) Full RB kit = $450.

I thought about selling the guages but I didn't figure there was much of a market for them

Looks Great, love the gauges

are they as accurate as the gauges it comes with?

i know zip about the different gauge companies.

i have the red/black interior. and this just matches perfectly.

very accurate
http://www.nordskogperformance.net/aboutus/history.htm
http://www.nordskogperformance.net/a...rdskog_bio.htm

jorge you are the freaking man!!!! great DIY!! Im jealous now

Woot! Great writeup, Jorge! Amost missed this thread.

Gonna have to make it to one of the LAX meets to see this (when you decide to go, that is) LOL.

Sticky!!!

I realy liked the set up and instructions, thanks.

I was thinking about doing something similar but was looking at getting dual digital guages so I can get all my guages in one place. I am considering going FI at some point so I would want, boost, a/f ratio, oil temp and pressure and water temp. I found that SPA makes dual digital guages but they are expensive and I did not find an a/f ratio guage. They have a dual oil temp and pressure guage, dual water temp and boost and they have some egt temp guages and volt guages just no a/f guages. I could go with dual oil temp and pressure guage, dual water temp and boost and then put another brand a/f guage in there but I would want a uniform look.

Does anybody know any other company that makes good dual guages? I think the 2 spa guages I listed would come to about $500. I would like to less and I wanted the af ratio guage not just an EGT guage.

Thoughts?

thanks man! I was wonderin' if you'd notice those...

Thanks Shinx, that's a heck of a compliment coming from you and that gorgeous car of yours

Couldn't agree more. These gauges aren't designed to be watched the entire time so when I do take my eyes the road for a second, it's nice to be able to see the reading quickly

Thanks man!! You know what a perfectionist I am with my mods.

so when are you ordering yours??? haha, thanks man!


HAHA, thanks man! I owe a lot of it to you for the great pics and advice on where to ground everything.

highway: check out the long thread on the RB pod; quite a few people have it and have been using different gauges then I did. This thread is specifically about the Nordskog so I don't want to side track the thread too much. I'll PM you a link. Thanks!

NICE!!!!! (As usual)

Not only is he a Jedi master, and vicious with a light saber . . .But he can work on cars too.

Such a nice job. Love the look. This look is factory stock. The fit, the color match, everything is top notch.

Good job and a great DIY.

Sweet setup Jorge! I'm jealous.. we gotta do lunch sometime soon (so I can see these in action!) =D

I hope the mods sticky this.! It's the only thread that shows how to properly ground / install electrical gauges...

One more for stickyness....


Those gauges as well as the write-up are schweeet! Excellent job Jorge!

yeaaa, why isnt this a sticky?

see if i can help on this.

requested move to diy section and sticky.


beers :beer:

Thanks Swoope!

Problem is that img tags don't work in the DIY section which is why I posted it here. Figured the bigger pictures were easier to see then clicking all the small thumbnails at the bottom.

Here's the post from Zoom about img tags + DIY section: https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...83&postcount=4

Awesome job, Jedi! The force is clearly with you. :) Moving to DIY forum, for all posterity, ans stickying it for a week or so. :D

Yea Yea!!

Thanks Omicron!

D'oh!!! Just noticed all my pics went away. Any chance of getting this sticked in the Interior / Electronics forum instead?

Thanks again guys for all the support.

did not know that. i bet omni can fix the pic problem.. as what good is a diy forum without pics. and glad to help..

ah i get it now.. maybe you could upload the pics in diy. and get a sticky in the elec. forum.




beers :beer:

Good looking setup and great DIY. I've been wanting some gauges for a while and these look great.
Thanks Jedi.

Yeah, stickiness, finally --- well, at least for awhile :)

Too bad there isn't a way to position pics (that's been uploaded to the forum) within the text of a post. I think DIYs flow much better that way.

Moved it back for now...we'll get it all sorted out :)

dude those gauges look so nice in there. Do they fit perfectly flush or is there some overlapping?

thanks Ross. Those bad boys sit nice and flush. :)

Very sexy