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Old 11-24-2008, 12:52 AM
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Difference between radar detector

I have found a number of radar detector online starting from 35 dollars all the way upto 700 dollars. So what is the difference between all of them. What are the different features that these offer.

I want a radar detector which is reliable on a highway and is as cheap as possible. I will not use the detector in the city because i never ever overspeed while in the city so any annoying false alarm for the city do not concern me.

I live in pakistan and the radar guns with the police are not that high tech. So shoot away people.
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you wont find a reliable and cheap radar detector.. you can have one or the other. Spend the most that you can afford.
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These days, the quality of a radar detector is determined by it's ability to reject false signals. Distance is secondary, because they all can get you a pretty good range. To get what may be considered a good one, most drivers will spend about $200 (US) or more.
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You've got to find out what frequencies that they are using for their guns. They may be the same as US, but I recall from friends in Saudi that their US detectors didn't work there.

Best to start with what they sell locally.

Note that Radar detectors manufactured in the USA (Escort, Bell, Valentine One) CANNOT BE SOLD OUTSIDE THE US/CANADA - Department of Defense reasons.
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Originally Posted by HUSSAIN
I have found a number of radar detector online starting from 35 dollars all the way upto 700 dollars. So what is the difference between all of them. What are the different features that these offer.

I want a radar detector which is reliable on a highway and is as cheap as possible. I will not use the detector in the city because i never ever overspeed while in the city so any annoying false alarm for the city do not concern me.

I live in pakistan and the radar guns with the police are not that high tech. So shoot away people.

hussain,

please get the fact that you are in pakistan in you avatar section.. it is the place called location.


it would help us all!!!!! see it is that part just below join date.. it is in your user cp.

i have an old on i could send you if i can find it. i am sure it would cover what you see.

do the police have ka, or lasar yet?

beers
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Originally Posted by Silver06
You've got to find out what frequencies that they are using for their guns. They may be the same as US, but I recall from friends in Saudi that their US detectors didn't work there.

Best to start with what they sell locally.
That may be true. I do know that the UK works on different frequencies.
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North American radars: X band; K band; Ka band only.
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Originally Posted by HUSSAIN
Here is a picture of radar detector pro-58 which shows V band as well.
Dude, that "V" on the display is for the VG2 alert. VG2 is what some police use to detect radar detectors. Search VG2 on wikipedia.

According to the specs. on that model, it only detects what I said above, plus laser.

Here is the owners manual: http://www.whistlergroup.com/manuals...ro58-73man.pdf

By the way, even the European radar frequencies don't mention this "V BAND" Euro frequencies are: Radar Frequencies: ~ 9.875 - 9.925 GHz (Euro X Band) ~ 13.425 - 13.475 GHz (Ku Band ) ~ 24.050 - 24.250 GHz (K Band) ~ 34.110 - 34.560 GHz (Ka Band ) ~ 34.450 - 36.000 GHz (Ka Band)
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Sorry got this information about Vband from a friend who owns a cobra radar detector here. It is a 12 band which he got from usa band and he is quite satisfied.
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Originally Posted by HUSSAIN
The police radars here have a V-band frequency. What detector do you have. Is it functional. Will it cover V-band. How much do you want for it.
thanks for playing the where are you from game..


to all.. wtf is v band.

somehow i dont think in pakastain they have a new set of rules, but i could be wrong..

i have an old passport.. search escort radar. that should get you to the place..

i think that might cover you.

what do i want. cover shipping. if i can find it you win..

cant wait to learn about this v band stuff!

btw, the only thing that matters is what is being used! i got a laser hit today.. it was the sun..


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Random, useless, too-much information from Wikipedia:

The V band (vee-band) of the electromagnetic spectrum ranges from 40 to 75 GHz. The V band is not heavily used, except for millimeter wave radar research and other kinds of scientific research. It should not be confused with the 600–1000 MHz range of Band-V (band-five) of the UHF frequency range.

The V band is also used for high capacity terrestrial millimeter wave communications systems. In the United States, the Federal Communications Commission has allocated frequency at 60 GHz for unlicensed point-to-point fixed wireless systems. These systems are primarily used for high capacity, short distance (less than 1 mile) communications. In addition, frequencies at 70, 80, and 90 GHz have been allocated as "lightly licensed" bands for multi-gigabit wireless communications. All communications links in the V band require unobstructed line of sight between the transmit and receive point, and rain fade must be taken into account when performing link budget analysis.


I was curious too.
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Originally Posted by Silver06
Random, useless, too-much information from Wikipedia:

The V band (vee-band) of the electromagnetic spectrum ranges from 40 to 75 GHz. The V band is not heavily used, except for millimeter wave radar research and other kinds of scientific research. It should not be confused with the 600–1000 MHz range of Band-V (band-five) of the UHF frequency range.

The V band is also used for high capacity terrestrial millimeter wave communications systems. In the United States, the Federal Communications Commission has allocated frequency at 60 GHz for unlicensed point-to-point fixed wireless systems. These systems are primarily used for high capacity, short distance (less than 1 mile) communications. In addition, frequencies at 70, 80, and 90 GHz have been allocated as "lightly licensed" bands for multi-gigabit wireless communications. All communications links in the V band require unobstructed line of sight between the transmit and receive point, and rain fade must be taken into account when performing link budget analysis.


I was curious too.
wow,

great answer.

wonder how that fits with the very overseas market.. my guess is that they use the same stuff as the us has used for years.

just a guess.. and if they are not into laser yet. well i think that says a lot..

and silver 06.

your posts are great, i wish i had the patience to do that. and accurate..

great job..!!! really.

beers
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Originally Posted by swoope
hussain,

please get the fact that you are in pakistan in you avatar section.. it is the place called location.


it would help us all!!!!! see it is that part just below join date.. it is in your user cp.

i have an old on i could send you if i can find it. i am sure it would cover what you see.

do the police have ka, or lasar yet?

beers
What Radar Detector do you have?

How much for it?

My sister is coming to usa so you can it to her and i can pay you.
Thanks
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Here are three detectors for less than 100 dollars.

http://www.amazon.com/Whistler-DE178...7523497&sr=1-7
http://www.amazon.com/Whistler-Pro-L...523497&sr=1-22
http://www.amazon.com/Beltronics-RX5...523497&sr=1-14

But i still cannot understand what is the difference between these three or the other radar detectors for that matter. Like whistler and cobra are offering about twenty of them and all have prices very closely packed. For example in the above link what is the difference between 1788 and Pro Laser Detector as they have the same price

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I think the Bel is a better performer tjhan the Whistlers, but Bels have a fatal flaw, after about two years in a sunny window, they start to bleep that they need factory recalibration.
So you would have to send it back to the US factory.
Or just throw it in the garbage, like I did.

Piece of junk.....

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but Bels have a fatal flaw, after about two years in a sunny window, they start to bleep that they need factory recalibration.
So you would have to send it back to the US factory.
Do they actually display the word recalibration? Or do they scream "LASER"? Mine is doing that isht after only 6-8 months. A friend's is doing the same thing after 6 months.

To my knowledge Ku-band is the only other police band used in the world outside what we have in the US.
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They say CAL REQD or some such once a week, then they say it every day, then soon - every minute, rendering them just a noisy paperweight.

Escort used to be one of the best, till Bel bought 'em.

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My Escort 8500 screams calibration if it is placed down near the dash or when the windshield wipers are on.
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I know some people have had issues with bels and escorts, but my bel rx65 pro is still working like a charm after 3 years & 62,000 miles in the car - but I do have mine mounted very high up by the headliner, so it doesn't get tons of direct sun.
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I have a cobra 12band and it works good i do get some false readings at certain spots but on highway it works great(usually where you need it anyway) I think a paid 100 for it 3 or 4 years ago so prob about 130 or 150 now...
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Originally Posted by alnielsen
My Escort 8500 screams calibration if it is placed down near the dash or when the windshield wipers are on.
I have another friend with the EXACT same detector and it did similar. Would flip out when she turned on the wipers. (Usually scream "LASER") They sent it off for service and it doesn't do it anymore.
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Hussain:

www.radardetector.net Start reading, make less threads
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Valentine One and done.

http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/r...ctor-test.html
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Agreed I have the Valentine One and it so far has the best preformance over any standard radar detector.


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