12000k HID
01-03-2005, 10:54 AM
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12000k HID
Anyone have a 12000k HID upgrade yet?
I ordered one today, just wanted know how it's gonna look. Is it hard to install these things btw? I have the regular halogen system right now and it sucks goat-***.
I ordered one today, just wanted know how it's gonna look. Is it hard to install these things btw? I have the regular halogen system right now and it sucks goat-***.
01-03-2005, 11:41 AM
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well it should look awesome...maybe it will look TOO blue and not legal but no big deal...just say audi's have it and it is 'legal'
definitely take some pics for us...I'm considering a higher temp bulb for the factory HID system
I'm glad your upgrading, it will look sweet!
definitely take some pics for us...I'm considering a higher temp bulb for the factory HID system
I'm glad your upgrading, it will look sweet!
01-03-2005, 12:45 PM
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Some might know this some might not...
Unless you want to have blue headlights there is absolutely no reason to go past 6500K or standard daylight. (5500K is considered pure white by most so daylight is a little blue to begin with)
12K is VERY blue. The blue wavelengths of light also blind the dilated pupils of oncoming drivers a lot more. Don't be surprised if a few people are ticked off with you when you drive.
In fact a 5500K HID that was twice as bright (i.e. lumens) as a 12000K would probably less offensive to oncoming traffic and help you see the road better.
-Mr. Wigggles
Unless you want to have blue headlights there is absolutely no reason to go past 6500K or standard daylight. (5500K is considered pure white by most so daylight is a little blue to begin with)
12K is VERY blue. The blue wavelengths of light also blind the dilated pupils of oncoming drivers a lot more. Don't be surprised if a few people are ticked off with you when you drive.
In fact a 5500K HID that was twice as bright (i.e. lumens) as a 12000K would probably less offensive to oncoming traffic and help you see the road better.
-Mr. Wigggles
01-03-2005, 01:09 PM
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Yeah I read up on the lumens and k's before I had ordered the system, I contacted the people at misterjung.com on the lights. Anyways the higher the "K" the less lumens you'll get, but you get more color outta them. I'm a fan of purple hue hids, and I think these will look pretty sweet. If not I'll go for the 7000k as a second choice. Either way I'll post a DIY and a lot of pics when this is done! Here are a couple of pics of how different each hid's look: www.misterjung.com (I'm not affliated just for reference)
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01-03-2005, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWigggles
12K is VERY blue. The blue wavelengths of light also blind the dilated pupils of oncoming drivers a lot more. Don't be surprised if a few people are ticked off with you when you drive.
Here are some pics of the actual lenses:
01-03-2005, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
I really want to upgrade the bulbs...TxRx8 I'm with you 12000K looks sweeet!!!! functional? hmmm well they are way better then halogen so who cares
01-03-2005, 07:14 PM
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FYI,
The black body curve and the CIE 1931 color chart:
And the Kelvin table to tell where on the chart 12,000K is
http://www.videoessentials.com/res_f...colorblackbody
At about .27x, .27y, 12,000K is a very bluish white and bluer than 8000K. Whether a manufacturer is accurate in reporting the color of their bulbs is a different story. My guess is the manufacture is calling them 12,000K because "12,000K is a bigger number and thus must be better 8,000K"
If you like the look, so be it. But you could be more distracting to other motorists and you probably won't see the road any better.
-Mr. Wigggles
The black body curve and the CIE 1931 color chart:
And the Kelvin table to tell where on the chart 12,000K is
http://www.videoessentials.com/res_f...colorblackbody
At about .27x, .27y, 12,000K is a very bluish white and bluer than 8000K. Whether a manufacturer is accurate in reporting the color of their bulbs is a different story. My guess is the manufacture is calling them 12,000K because "12,000K is a bigger number and thus must be better 8,000K"
If you like the look, so be it. But you could be more distracting to other motorists and you probably won't see the road any better.
-Mr. Wigggles
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01-03-2005, 08:19 PM
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I changed my mind on the 12000k, and ordered 6000k instead. I figured Functionality would be better than color. Sure it's not as bright as the 4200k, but it's a good balance, maybe the best balance of looks and visibility.
Apparently the HID topic is huge on other boards, I checked out the Mazda 6 boards and some guy on there ordered the exact same kit I'm getting. It's a McCulloch HID 6000k. He's got video and a couple of pics. It looked great inside the projector housing and I made up my mind right there. I had to get these!
Hopefully he wont mind if I link his vid, so here it is:
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~bqluong/nautechids.wmv
And here's the link to site with his pics:
http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopi...382&highlight=
Apparently the HID topic is huge on other boards, I checked out the Mazda 6 boards and some guy on there ordered the exact same kit I'm getting. It's a McCulloch HID 6000k. He's got video and a couple of pics. It looked great inside the projector housing and I made up my mind right there. I had to get these!
Hopefully he wont mind if I link his vid, so here it is:
http://www.u.arizona.edu/~bqluong/nautechids.wmv
And here's the link to site with his pics:
http://forum.mazda6tech.com/viewtopi...382&highlight=
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01-07-2005, 01:11 PM
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cool thread, hadn't even thought about the different HID levels/colors.
i like my stock HIDs.. once and awhile i get someone flashing me and i flash them back. i imagine that thier eyes get burnt out and feel ashamed.
heh. but seriously, i prefer driving with my 8 since at night i can see SO much better.
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i like my stock HIDs.. once and awhile i get someone flashing me and i flash them back. i imagine that thier eyes get burnt out and feel ashamed.
heh. but seriously, i prefer driving with my 8 since at night i can see SO much better.
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01-08-2005, 01:23 AM
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I've seen 15k...on that note, I have a feeling the most manufactures, other than philips, lie about the color temp. It is so hard to measure the temps that most people would never know what color temp they have.... we just assume that beacuse it is purple that it is 10k-12k.
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01-08-2005, 03:22 AM
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Dude I just installed the McCulloch 6000k and they look SICK! I was really pleased with the color and the light output. Took around three hours to put 'em in. Most of the time I was trying to figure out where to mount the damn ballast! I finally put it right above the oil-coolers. I hope it's safe there. From the pics I saw of these bulbs on the net the looked light aqua blue. Very different story when your right in front of them.They look like the Audi HID's. More purple than anything. Just the color I was going for! Another weird thing is when I took some shots with my digital camera, the lcd displays them as light aqua blue!!
That's friggin' weird. I'm gonna post the pics tomorrow night, they look...damn. :D
Oh yeah, Mikeb, the 12000k are $305 shipped from the guy I got these from.
He's a cool dude too. Lives in Cali somewhere btw.
That's friggin' weird. I'm gonna post the pics tomorrow night, they look...damn. :D
Oh yeah, Mikeb, the 12000k are $305 shipped from the guy I got these from.
He's a cool dude too. Lives in Cali somewhere btw.
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01-08-2005, 03:39 AM
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I've seen 15k...on that note, I have a feeling the most manufactures, other than philips, lie about the color temp. It is so hard to measure the temps that most people would never know what color temp they have.... we just assume that beacuse it is purple that it is 10k-12k.
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so no one would check anywayI did not know it is SUCH a high end photo item....I went to a specialized camera shop in hopes of obtaining one (before I knew the price) they said they don't sell them and but could order one from Japan or German...deposit? $1000 yikes!
01-09-2005, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeb
only 305??
that is so cheap
the catz hid I got for my civic was 500
got any pics
that is so cheap
the catz hid I got for my civic was 500
got any pics
01-10-2005, 11:21 PM
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6000k woo hoo!
Here's some pics I got with my camera phone, my other digi-cam isn't working right now. So this is the best I can do for now. Rember these lights ARE NOT BLUE,
they're a bright purple that emmit a pure white light. No hint of yellow in there what so ever. I love HID's!!!! I'm getting my bud's camera tomorrow, there'll be better pics then. Hope y'all dig 'em!
they're a bright purple that emmit a pure white light. No hint of yellow in there what so ever. I love HID's!!!! I'm getting my bud's camera tomorrow, there'll be better pics then. Hope y'all dig 'em!
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