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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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I'll have to check to polarity. MIKE are you reading this??? haha
ummm...if they are blinking at all ...I think you said they were blinking too fast, then polarity is correct...so why are you going to check polarity?

You might want to google some electrical circuit basics. It would help alot to get some basics down in troubleshooting this. Here's a pic of my install in the back...showing parallel wiring. The yellow and the black wire coming from the resistor (behind the metal plate) are just spliced into the wires going to the turn signal light. That's putting the resistor in parallel with the LED.

That way the circuit draw current EQUAL to the original incandesant light.


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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 07:56 AM
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thanks for the pic. I know what to do now. i just got to take a look in the trunk, i was not the last one in there. Series....
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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they are installed correctly...its hooked up the same way as yours... just mounted in a different spot
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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I know they are.... I email vled and they didn't answer the question, just said what their site state on the load resistors 3 and 6 ohm that's all . I don't what to do other then to test the juice going through each circuit.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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You said you are using the 3ohm up front and the 6 in back? If you look at V-LEDs site, the 3 ohm are supposed to be used for the front AND back. One on each side of the car, two total. The 6ohm is supposed to be set up the way you are doing it with one resistor per bulb, four total. If you don't mind running wire up to the front of the vehicle from the trunk, you could just use the two 3ohms that you already have, although that sounds like kind of a pain to me. Personally, I'd order another set of the 6 ohm resistors and put those up front.
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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You can test this by taking one of the 6 ohm resistors from the back and put it up front and see if you get a normal blink rate on that one side.

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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:05 AM
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yeah I was thinking that yesterday. doing a resistor change ----- Example-------


Left Side- 6ohm front and 6ohm rear at the same time. then test the circuit if still hyper blinking.


On another Note: one of the arms in my tail/brake light has stopped working after only two full days of use. I just cant win with these things.
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:36 AM
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Pico, I'd think you'd do better just getting a couple red 7w ones for the brakes. Not much to go wrong there, easiler to install, just slip it in, and likely at least as bright - if not quite as pretty as the PITA ones (when they work!). Too bad they're outa stock, I wanted some of them too!
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:39 AM
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And a thought for the LED problem....why not put regular bulbs back in one end, like the front, no resistors. Then sort out the rear. If you can get it working, at least you'll know which end is up as far as hooking them up at one end. Then move on the the front...
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:49 AM
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i was thinking of buying the 7w bulb when i saw the light was broke last night. I got the thirty day warranty so I'll see how they hold up.

And i did try to do the regular bulbs on Sunday. and it works fine. Right now I'm running the 7w in the rear with a standard bulb in the front and no hyper blinking. I'll to reverse that ( 7w up front and std. in the rear) and see what happens. but now I'm thinking it could just be a resistor change or combo that could fix this pain in the *** problem
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:52 AM
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...VERLY INTERESTING! I've only got LEDs in the rear so of course no problems. Seeing that the front/rear combo is the problem takes it to another level. Must be someone that's done that....wish for your sake they'd chime in .... frustrating...
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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I second that............ It will be fixed soon enough
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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Problem fixed

Ok... my thoughts on this matter were correct after thinking long and hard. The key was switching out the 6ohm/50watts resistors to the 3ohm//50watts resistors= problem fixed. simply there was just to much resistance on each circuit to cause the hyper flashing.

Notes to all in the future: two 7w lights on the same circuit need a 3ohm/50watt resistor. Connect wires in series on the circuit

f 7w------7w<50w3ohm resistor t
r r
o u
n n
t 7w------7w<50w3ohm resistor k


I'll have new pictures as soon as possible.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pico
Ok... my thoughts on this matter were correct after thinking long and hard. The key was switching out the 6ohm/50watts resistors to the 3ohm//50watts resistors= problem fixed. simply there was just to much resistance on each circuit to cause the hyper flashing.

Notes to all in the future: two 7w lights on the same circuit need a 3ohm/50watt resistor. Connect wires in series on the circuit

f 7w------7w<50w3ohm resistor t
r r
o u
n n
t 7w------7w<50w3ohm resistor k


I'll have new pictures as soon as possible.
So can you explain how you set this up in a little more detail? So you are just using 2 3ohm resistors? One on each side mounted at the rear? And that takes care of the front also? I must know, I'm ordering mine this weekend.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 06:25 AM
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Correct. Only use one 3ohm resistor on each side -left and right- of the car (mounting the resistors in trunk is the easiest and most accessible spot)


If you mount in this manor you will not need to put another resistor in the front turn signal area of the car
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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Thanks, Pico, that's really good info to know and will make my bulb swap much easier!
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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look at Pico el Chico breakin it down with diagrams and **** hahaha
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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Pictures that I promised

here are a few pictures that were taken at about the same time of day that the first set was. You can see the difference very noticeable. The pictures don't to justice but, you guys get the idea. These are the new new v-star Bulbs from V-Led.

Oh and I know i got one LED out so no need to let me know a second time.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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those look nice! I bet it looks killer in person
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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Lovely! Very bright even in daylight.

Any chance you can get a vid of it in action (i.e. brake and turn signals)?
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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I'll try to get a video in the future. Good idea, I don't see enough good LED videos on the web. On another note, who makes a good LED 3rd brake light? That's going to be something I'm going to want to do very soon

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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Like this?




There was a group buy on these, but it fell through. You can find them on eBay also, but be warned, they are cheap and the company is kind of flaky. I'm happy with mine though.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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That would be the look I'm going for. I've seen a light that looks like that on ebay but didn't know if the light was dependable and if the construction was one of good quality. Which brand did you go with?
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:42 PM
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I got mine through the group buy here, before it fell through. I believe the different sellers on eBay are all selling the same thing. I'd give it a 6 out of 10. The chrome bezel is a little cheap and is not molded specifically for the 8. It's just a found piece that was a pretty good fit. The plastic housing is a nice mold and fits well but the rubber gromet is too tall and stiff so you have to pull the gromet off the OEM housing. The LEDs are nice and bright though and seem to be holding up.

FYI: In the first pic above I actually installed the LEDs into the OEM housing, which is also an option, since then I've reinstalled them in the aftermarket housing with the OEM gromet.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Also, save one of those 6ohm resistors because I believe you'll get a warning light if all brake lights are LED. I think only one has to have a resistor.
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