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Old May 4, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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honestly, if you can get good gas just aim for a 13.5 a/f ratio and leave the ignition map alone as it works pretty damn good (except I would still zero out the first column to avoid the engine feeling rough at lower rpms)
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Old May 4, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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Many Thanks for th link, this is what I've been looking for.
Your welcome
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Old May 6, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Results have been obtained

Okay hopefully this will end the debate on wither this unit works or not.
The results are in.
Just wondering if we are all in agreement of what a stock RX8 will dyno at.
In the cases I have seen it looks like 210-215HP at the flywheel.
If we agree on this then I will move forward.
A RX8 with stock ecu and cat removed will dyno at 220HP at the flywheel. This I know I can prove this.
A RX8 with unichip tuned to the car and cat removed will dyno at 227HP at the flywheel. This again I can prove.
A RX8 with canzoomer stage 1 without the board modifications been done will dyno at 20 HP less than stock setup. Again I can prove this as well.
A RX8 with canzoomer stage 2 map with board modifications done and a high flow cat installed, no cat is very smelly, will dyno at.......wait for it............wait...............wait............. ......a well you'll need to keep your eye on this space. Will post results tonight in the form of my dyno sheet.
Please note that the same dyno was used in all my testing.
Again please note that all dyno readings are given as FLYWHEEL POWER.
This has been acheived by measuring the run down and calculating losses and adding them back onto the wheel power. I didn't make this program up the tuning company did. They say it is very accurate, as carlsberg says, probably the most accurate dyno in the world. They also have said that a stock car producing 198HP was measured at 198.3HP on their dyno. I think this is pretty accurate. Dont flame me, not my dyno, not my dyno mechanic, not my dyno software.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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I think the part that makes me laugh the most is..........

"A RX8 with canzoomer stage 1 without the board modifications done will dyno at 20 HP less than stock setup. Again I can prove this as well."

I would put " a Stage 1 CZ unit modified for full RPM use....with a half RPM Map...that kicked the **** out of the PCM in the car......." :D

I wish you luck on your dyno.....Want to see the results. Hope you get some good gains
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Old May 6, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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I would put " a Stage 1 CZ unit modified for full RPM use....with a half RPM Map...that kicked the **** out of the PCM in the car......."
:o
This is also true but I cannot prove that lol.
You'll have to take my word on that one. :D

Hey I'll try anything, if you say red cars go faster then I'm off to the spray shop.

If installing four springs and tying a duck to the back will give me an extra 10hp
then here goes!!!
......................it worked for the germans, four sprung duck technique, Audi to be exact.
:D
As long as my network works tonight the results will be posted. If not it will be tomorrow.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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can not wait to see the results. Good luck.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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I'd venture to guess the results were pretty good since we see no flaming remarks/posts :p
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Old May 6, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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Results

Setup
Canzoomer stage one map unmodified board, custom back boxes and cat removed.

Please note runs 1 + 2 are canzoomer on
3 + 4 canzoomer off
Attached Thumbnails UK Spec car with Canzoomer-bhp.jpg   UK Spec car with Canzoomer-torque.jpg  
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Old May 6, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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Setup
Cat out, custom back boxes stock ecu.
Run 2 same as above but unichip installed.
Attached Thumbnails UK Spec car with Canzoomer-bhp.jpg   UK Spec car with Canzoomer-torque.jpg  
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Old May 6, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Setup
Air filter blitz copy universal, Reamaimeya header, custom back boxes, R-magic high flow cat, yes the cats back, Ogura lightened flywheel and uprated clutch.
Oh yes canzoomer installed board modified and stage 2 full rpm map.
Both runs are on this setup.
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Old May 6, 2005 | 07:02 PM
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SO: did it work :D
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Old May 6, 2005 | 11:58 PM
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yip it did. This is my official apology to Mr. Canzoomer, who I very quickly jumped on the band wagon and said his product did not work. Very sorry Maurice. You have done a good job with your unit. Looks like I got about 25-20HP increase. Remember it is untuned to my specific car, just his standard stage two map.
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Old May 7, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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Good on you.....good to see that it worked on your car. Now get to tuning...should get a few more under the curve from a custom tune :D
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Old May 7, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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awesome... congrats and keep tuning!!
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Old May 8, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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Does anyone understand what is happening between 6000-7000RPM. Big dip in curve in the torque map.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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Please post ur A/F graph for the dyno. It might caused by too lean or too rich at the rpm range.
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Old May 10, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ghlight=S-DAIS check out this link. It might help u to figure it out since there is another Tertiary intake ports open (6250 rpm)
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Old May 10, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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according to the dyno results he was able to make his uk spec 228 hp rx8 make the us spec 238(ish) numbers
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Old May 11, 2005 | 06:43 AM
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AFR Graph

Here is my afr graph
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Old May 11, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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according to the dyno results he was able to make his uk spec 228 hp rx8 make the us spec 238(ish) numbers
Not to be cheeky, but I have yet to see convincing evidence that the US Spec car makes 238 HP.

I thought Mazda orginally speced all RX8's at the 240 mark then dropped the spec to 228HP.

The UK version, I think is exactly the same as the US version, apart from the spark plugs. The "Mazda Speed" spark plugs that Canzoomer sells are actually standard in the UK RX's.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Nice work great result :D hopefully i will get the Australian canzoomer version up and running those figures shortly , as the forum members here are also knocking the canzoomer unit saying 20 - 25 hp is not possible .

cheers
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Old May 11, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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Hi Mcpheeg,

would you try to smooth out the A/F for the 6.2k rpm -> 6.4 k rpm? Btw I am not sure u want to dyno it again soon.

I am not sure it help to smooth out the tq or not
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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Do you think the map is too lean????
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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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I would add back a bit from 7500-8500 area..a bit lean there. No pinging?
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Old May 11, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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How would I detect pinging??

Please note this is still canzoomers stage 2 full rpm map.

I havent changed anything on it yet
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