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Old 10-17-2012, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by reddozen View Post
Haltech – Engine Management Systems Platinum Sprint RE

Haltech Platinum Sprint RE ECU right off their website
Just ECU: $899
With the long lead kit: $1,042
Yeah IIRC, that ECU didn't work so well. I think it was Dannobre who tried to run it and then gave up after working with Haltech unsuccessfully to get the issues resolved. Specs say it only supports 4 injectors so maybe Dan was using an even higher end model.

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Old 10-17-2012, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by reddozen View Post
Haltech Engine Management Systems Platinum Sprint RE

Haltech Platinum Sprint RE ECU right off their website
Just ECU: $899
With the long lead kit: $1,042
http://www.haltech.com/wp-content/up...t_RE_Rev_B.pdf

16x16 resolution. No thanks.

The cheapest standalone i'd use is the Adaptronic select, 1400$. It's a nice entry level product. Then on to bigger things like MoTec or Bosch.
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Old 10-17-2012, 03:58 PM
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My point is that if I'm going to spend $1k+, I may as well start looking into something else. With the AP only being $400, any other "flash" based software needs to be around that price range to be worth the price justification to me.
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This comes from an user that can't tune his own AP the proper way... how would you start with a blank ecu?
That softwares allows you to tune multiple cars, the standalone doesn't.
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Old 10-17-2012, 04:10 PM
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As BSE said , Mazdaedit Pro allows you to tune an unlimited number of cars with the drawback being that you can't currently tune remotely . Once (if) the slave software is available this will enable remote tuning ,as well as self tuning ,and that software should be significantly cheaper than the pro version.

I actually enquired with Cobb to buy thier Pro version as well ( at over $2000 ) but they wont sell it due to an agreement with you know who ....

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Old 10-17-2012, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bse50 View Post
This comes from an user that can't tune his own AP the proper way... how would you start with a blank ecu?
That softwares allows you to tune multiple cars, the standalone doesn't.
I'm only going to point out the fact that can't is much different from want or care. If I felt it would be worth the trouble, I would have continued to care. It runs at factory AFRs, has 25k miles without problem, and still gets over 240 miles per tank of gas. That's good enough for me for a failed experiment. If there was another rotary car available from Mazda right now, this car would already be gone.


Brettus,
That would be nice, and would make it a little more worth wild. The pro version is a little overkill if you're not a tuner that works with multiple peoples cars, and only needs it for your one vehicle.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:24 PM
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ummmmmmm what ?
umm... as far as addressing all the different locations on the Mazda map... It looked like from the screenshots that you have to do a bit of setup table wise....
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by reddozen View Post
My point is that if I'm going to spend $1k+, I may as well start looking into something else. With the AP only being $400, any other "flash" based software needs to be around that price range to be worth the price justification to me.
AP with Consumer ATR is gimped and on the verge of being 100% out of support. I would hate to have to try to get a new copy of it today.
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Originally Posted by reddozen View Post
Haltech – Engine Management Systems Platinum Sprint RE

Haltech Platinum Sprint RE ECU right off their website
Just ECU: $899
With the long lead kit: $1,042
correct me if wrong, but isnt that for haltech u gotta splice ur own wires?

and as bse point out, 16x 16 is just ... needs a bit more

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Old 10-17-2012, 05:26 PM
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Incidentally, Protuner is about the same price as MazdaEdit and appears to have similar, if not equal, extensibility.

If it wasn't for the simplicity of a MAP based system with my Adaptronic I would pick one of these two products, no doubt.

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Old 10-17-2012, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Brettus View Post
I actually enquired with Cobb to buy thier Pro version as well ( at over $2000 ) but they wont sell it due to an agreement with you know who ....
You and many others, Bret. He who must not be named did a phenomenal job of protecting his business model and he has no problems stating as much. We talked about it (rather heatedly) one evening after an all day tuning session.
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shelldude - the map as supplied to me did not have enough definitions to enable a tune . Looks like I'm the first one they have had buy it that actually intends using it to tune .
But the guy is helping me through it so all the definitions should be sorted for the next person who buys it.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:33 PM
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Sweet ... so if I ever do buy it, I know who to ask for all the table locations
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Originally Posted by ShellDude View Post
Incidentally, Protuner is about the same price as MazdaEdit and appears to have similar, if not equal, extensibility.
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You mean Protuner by Hymee ? I have that - I wouldn't be even bothering with Mazdaedit if there was support for Protuner . But there isn't.
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Originally Posted by Brettus View Post
You mean Protuner by Hymee ? I have that - I wouldn't be even bothering with Mazdaedit if there was support for Protuner . But there isn't.
just like their original "scanlyser", what new version again? that thing has so many bugs and no update whatsoever, talk about waste of money *sob*
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just like their original "scanlyser", what new version again? that thing has so many bugs and no update whatsoever, talk about waste of money *sob*
HAha - yep just about anyone that has got into tuning an 8 has ended up buying multiple tuning solutions over the years . I really hope this one wont be another in the long sad list .....
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps View Post
just like their original "scanlyser", what new version again? that thing has so many bugs and no update whatsoever, talk about waste of money *sob*
I still have a 20' long RS232 cable for that damn piece of software that would crash every 15-30 seconds. He kept promising us a new version.... a 2.0 snuck out to a few of us but it wasn't any better.

Yeah, I hear ya guys.
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Originally Posted by Brettus View Post
HAha - yep just about anyone that has got into tuning an 8 has ended up buying multiple tuning solutions over the years . I really hope this one wont be another in the long sad list .....
yea, thx for being the lab rat✪ for us haha


man, speaking of that scanalyser crap, its still sitting on the shelf in my room cuz its not fking usable! T_T
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I still have a 20' long RS232 cable for that damn piece of software that would crash every 15-30 seconds. He kept promising us a new version.... a 2.0 snuck out to a few of us but it wasn't any better.

Yeah, I hear ya guys.
★facepalm★

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Here's to Brett in working out all of the kinks in software with the dev. We expect a Brettspeed seal of approval.
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Where can I get a "Brettspeed" sticker? I'm sure that will get me more hp than any ebay performance chip can do.
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curious stuff, how many tables/windows does the mazdaedit have compared to the cobb atr?
I feel really comfortable with the cobb ap, so I am hesitant to jump on board with something else, unless there is features like lauch control and or other windows/handles that would prove beneficial. SSV control? real knock sensor values? intake temp vs timing retard? coolant temp vs timing retard?

I know one thing I love about the powerFC (for the rx-7) is on the trailing timing map you can choose to view that as split instead of straight timing.

really eager to know more!!
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epifanSoftware | ecuEdit

epifanSoftware • View topic - New mazdaEdit tool

http://www.tactrix.com/index.php?pag...mart&Itemid=53

taxtrix is 170, and the personal software is 250.

420 for a tuning option is very affordable

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Old 10-17-2012, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps View Post
Where can I get a "Brettspeed" sticker? I'm sure that will get me more hp than any ebay performance chip can do.
Brenttspeed stickers will give you 20hp on a NA car. It's butt dyno proven.
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epifanSoftware • View topic - New mazdaEdit tool

Tactrix Openport 2.0

taxtrix is 170, and the personal software is 250.

420 for a tuning option is very affordable
According to the current info on their site the personal version doesn't support the RX-8.

I'll be following this thread, curious to see where it goes and if there will be any advantages over the AP.
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