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Old 09-08-2009, 07:02 PM
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/\ wow - really ? how much powa ?

how do your EGTs look ?

I spoke to a old school rotary tuner here about timing and he thought i was running way too advanced . How come the Renesis can take it ?
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EGT's are pretty cool 1400-1600 or so.

Powa-wise.... well I gave Chickenwafer the same timing changes...
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Id put some back in there up top.

Mine get to about 17-18 at torque peak and get up to 22-24 after toward redline... gives it some more powa...
On good fuel.
Around here, 1 or 2 more at the torque peak than what he is running will ping.

Its all a balancing act. There is more power to be had from 1 AFR point leaner than 1 of timing.
If the EGTs are good, I'd only bump the <175% up a good margin. That is where this timing table is lacking.
A whole bunch of resolution is being wasted on the 150% - 200% range.
Wasting half of the table's resolution from 100% - 200% isn't productive. I do all of that in 4 columns and save the rest for drivability and transition.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac View Post
On good fuel.
Around here, 1 or 2 more at the torque peak than what he is running will ping.

Its all a balancing act. There is more power to be had from 1 AFR point leaner than 1 of timing.
If the EGTs are good, I'd only bump the <175% up a good margin. That is where this timing table is lacking.
A whole bunch of resolution is being wasted on the 150% - 200% range.
Wasting half of the table's resolution from 100% - 200% isn't productive. I do all of that in 4 columns and save the rest for drivability and transition.


Thanks for the input
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac View Post
On good fuel.
Around here, 1 or 2 more at the torque peak than what he is running will ping.

Its all a balancing act. There is more power to be had from 1 AFR point leaner than 1 of timing.
If the EGTs are good, I'd only bump the <175% up a good margin. That is where this timing table is lacking.
A whole bunch of resolution is being wasted on the 150% - 200% range.
Wasting half of the table's resolution from 100% - 200% isn't productive. I do all of that in 4 columns and save the rest for drivability and transition.
I keep forgetting about bad gas... been spoiled I guess.
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I keep forgetting about bad gas... been spoiled I guess.
Yeah. Most of the 91 here in PHX is really 89.
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How does the ECU handle settings between tuning points if you lower the resolution for the 100-200 load areas? Does it stay on the previous setting until it reaches the next setting point or will it scale between them depending on which it is closer to?
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It interpolates...
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It interpolates...
Ahhh perfect. So if I wanted to change this its as simple as plotting the scale that i have now and simply using whatever reference points on that scale that the new resolution needs

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Would it be possible for someone to please post their Turbo timing maps up in excel format.

Also I'm not to excel savvy so would it be asking to much if someone could work on a Timing worksheet with Leading, Trailing and a Split table, that allows to adjust the leading & trailing by chaning the split values? THIS WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY GREAT!

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hey am luis i have a rx8 whit a t70 turbo 1000 cc inj en ultimate greddy and a brand new but is runnin way rich how can i lower the injection until i get it tunne
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/\ t 70 -greddy e-mangle - no tune !!!!! oh dear
If you can't alter the e-mangle settings yourself all you can do is put the stock injectors back in and stay out of boost till you get a tune .

what posessed you to put that monster turbo in there - any pics ?

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Originally Posted by Derex'8 View Post
Would it be possible for someone to please post their Turbo timing maps up in excel format.

Also I'm not to excel savvy so would it be asking to much if someone could work on a Timing worksheet with Leading, Trailing and a Split table, that allows to adjust the leading & trailing by chaning the split values? THIS WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY GREAT!
Can you meet with me and Nuke this weekend? I can give you all the help you need.
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/\ t 70 -greddy e-mangle - no tune !!!!! oh dear
If you can't alter the e-mangle settings yourself all you can do is put the stock injectors back in and stay out of boost till you get a tune .

what posessed you to put that monster turbo in there - any pics ?
Same size as the Esmeril kit pretty much.
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/\ t 70 -greddy e-mangle - no tune !!!!! oh dear
If you can't alter the e-mangle settings yourself all you can do is put the stock injectors back in and stay out of boost till you get a tune .

what posessed you to put that monster turbo in there - any pics ?

Here this is the T-70 turbo from Esmeril kit

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Same size as the Esmeril kit pretty much.
oh yeah , forgot . What possesed Esmeril to put that monster turbo in there ?
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bigger is better?
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stop going below the belt Jedi and stick to the subject at hand - oops that came out wrong ....
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oh yeah , forgot . What possesed Esmeril to put that monster turbo in there ?
If I can't say anything nice...
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How is this for a base FI timing? Isn't it too safe?

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Shouldn't be too bad for a starter, what are your IAT and EGT's with that timing?
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IAT 15-25 above ambient 40-45 right now. Don't know about EGT. Any concerns about them (timing related)?
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How is this for a base FI timing? Isn't it too safe?

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Considering that most of us run another 10 degrees (ish) than that table it does not seem to serve a lot of purpose to run quite that retarded .
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guess i am running lots more timing that others?
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Considering that most of us run another 10 degrees (ish) than that table it does not seem to serve a lot of purpose to run quite that retarded .
Considering that the REW runs 9 at peak torque and it is one point of compression lower than the MSP...
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