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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
This might be why Mazmart is stocking up on Rennys.
never mind

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Funny how you never hear him talk junk about you. Bitter anyone?
Who are you talking about?
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:04 PM
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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What?

He was talking about Mazmart selling a lot of engines due to tuners blowing them.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Kane
What?

He was talking about Mazmart selling a lot of engines due to tuners blowing them.
Confusion between Mazmart and Mazsport again?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 07:32 AM
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I'm adding a bunch of engine related mods and need to get something to log base tune pretty quick so...need to order something. Thanks in adv sorry if these are repeat questions.

With the current Accessport release for the RX-8, can I do things like change the tire diameter constant in the ecu? Is the Street Tuner sw included as part of the package ...I don't think so, but have to ask. Or is it that I can only just load and switch between predone maps.. sort of like the RB Flash but I load my own predone tune (from someone else - and do any tunes come w/the unit)?

Also can I log, display, and focus in on ECU paramter data on my PC for study similar to efidude's Prologger sw... and not just display in real time on the Accessport screen?

Lastly, I likely could have answered these questionsif I could find and read the manual before purchase. Is one avail online? One the web site they have other car's manuals, but not the RX-8... or is it not so much car specific.

I'm looking for a complete description of all RX-8 Accessport features and functions, what it can modify in the ecu, etc., not just the marketing blurb. Lastly, is there a dif between buying from Cobb or MM? Support?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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So far I'm totally sold. It's a great device and so easy a caveman can use it.

The cavemen of the world are going to unite and take your car.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
With the current Accessport release for the RX-8, can I do things like change the tire diameter constant in the ecu? Is the Street Tuner sw included as part of the package ...I don't think so, but have to ask.
No, I didn't ask for that feature and Cobb probably wouldn't include it since that info is actually in the ABS HU, not that PCM. My answer - you should use properly sized tires.

Originally Posted by Spin9k
Or is it that I can only just load and switch between predone maps.. sort of like the RB Flash but I load my own predone tune (from someone else - and do any tunes come w/the unit)?
You can use Cobb flashes from anyone that produces one. Me, Cobb, someone else, whoever. At some point fairly soon, there will be a retail version of the software that will allow you to create your own flashes, should there not be a satisfactory calibration for you already out there (something that I doubt possible, but you never know).

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Also can I log, display, and focus in on ECU paramter data on my PC for study similar to efidude's Prologger sw... and not just display in real time on the Accessport screen?
This is a function of the software, which will be released to retail later as mentioned above. So, yes - just not right now.

Originally Posted by Spin9k
Lastly, I likely could have answered these questionsif I could find and read the manual before purchase. Is one avail online? One the web site they have other car's manuals, but not the RX-8... or is it not so much car specific.

I'm looking for a complete description of all RX-8 Accessport features and functions, what it can modify in the ecu, etc., not just the marketing blurb. Lastly, is there a dif between buying from Cobb or MM? Support?
The only "manual" at this time is for the AP itself, not the software. I would imagine that they are working on a manual for the RX-8. The Subie manual is pretty close to what the RX-8 software looks like, though the RX-8 version has a whole slew of features, not included in the Subie version, that are rotary-specific.

Here is the RX-8 "Quick Install" guide: RX-8 AccessPORT Getting Started

Here is the WRX "AccessTUNER" guide: Cobb AccessPORT StreetTUNER User's Guide

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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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Those links are backwards.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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Those links are backwards.
You mom is backwards! lol. (Sorry, I had a "Napoleon Dynamite" moment.)

I'll fix it in a sec.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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The PDF does not tell you when to turn the key to the "ON" position.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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Yeah, I noticed that.
You turn it to the "ON" position after you plug it in.
The AP tells you when to turn it off again.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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Thanks for all that MM

No, I didn't ask for that feature and Cobb probably wouldn't include it since that info is actually in the ABS HU, not that PCM. My answer - you should use properly sized tires.
ABS HD (head Unit?) I thought from past threads, that is an ECU parameter, perhaps you could ask to see if it's possible or you just know it isn't? My recollection could be wrong of course. And it's not just about using undersized tires... the stock speedo (and rpm) are overly optimistic as well. I can easily see that from my Traqmate GPS reading which I take as accurate. This would allow calibration of these.

You can use Cobb flashes from anyone that produces one. Me, Cobb, someone else, whoever. At some point fairly soon, there will be a retail version of the software that will allow you to create your own flashes, should there not be a satisfactory calibration for you already out there (something that I doubt possible, but you never know).
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I though RX-8s were relatively unique as far as their specific tune ( if you wanted the best performance and not hurt the engine) and therefore to get the most (not just the minimum) from your particular car - tuning to your particular car was essential? I would think for example, a completly stock car could likey take a packaged tune best, but after adding intake, exhaust, so new MAF tube and with the differences anyway in MAF's calibration between cars, the result could be lesss than stellar?

Are these assumption wrong?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Spin9k
Thanks for all that MM



ABS HD (head Unit?) I thought from past threads, that is an ECU parameter, perhaps you could ask to see if it's possible or you just know it isn't? My recollection could be wrong of course. And it's not just about using undersized tires... the stock speedo (and rpm) are overly optimistic as well. I can easily see that from my Traqmate GPS reading which I take as accurate. This would allow calibration of these.
Keep in mind the speed you see in the speedo is 2 mph higher then the speed the sensors are actually reporting on the obd-ii bus (perfect example of lawyer proofing) and depending on tire wear the speedo cal can be off almost 5%


I thought the parameter is in the ECU... i remember seeing it with my CANSCan enhanced data package, but maybe it was in the ABS section... can't remember now
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
Yeah, I noticed that.
You turn it to the "ON" position after you plug it in.
The AP tells you when to turn it off again.
Hey MazdaManiac, I saw an image of the AP Manager software on another site and I was wondering if maybe you could clear something up for me. My question is does the AP come with a map for the '04 models that are stuck in Cali? I'm just wondering if I was missreading what I saw. The image is at the bottom of the page this links to.

http://coloradomazdaclub.com/forums/...pic=1100&st=25
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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The AP supports, 2004, 2005, 2006 & 2007 USDM models, both Federal and Cali.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
The AP supports, 2004, 2005, 2006 & 2007 USDM models, both Federal and Cali.
Cool, now I just need to scratch my pennies together and ****** one of these devices up! Thanks for your help MM!
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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soo if we buy it right now there wont be maps ready for it??? what if you have CAI will this affect it? or whats up? are the power gaisn to that of the interceptor x?
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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there are maps available for it now. You just have to tell Jeff you received the AP and what kind of setup your car has.

Gains over the int-x are unknown right now. I haven't seen any dyno results. What you are getting is one less computer system in the mix, the ability to modify many of the car's presets, and at about half the price.
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Old Mar 17, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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Jeff,

have you been able to get a map setup that includes a CAI....K&N V2 with good results? I'd like to purchase a unit from you, but am tentative as I've opened up the exhaust side (hp cat & greddy sp2) and installed a CAI. I understand that the CAI really throws off the Mass Airflow Sensor.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Corentco
Jeff,

have you been able to get a map setup that includes a CAI....K&N V2 with good results? I'd like to purchase a unit from you, but am tentative as I've opened up the exhaust side (hp cat & greddy sp2) and installed a CAI. I understand that the CAI really throws off the Mass Airflow Sensor.
This is true - it does screw with the MAF.

I've worked the calibrations around a few different intakes, but the K&N v2 is one that got special attention. I've had the AP installed on 3 cars with that intake and I have the K&N v1 intake tube in my car (before the turbo, of course).
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
This is true - it does screw with the MAF.

I've worked the calibrations around a few different intakes, but the K&N v2 is one that got special attention. I've had the AP installed on 3 cars with that intake and I have the K&N v1 intake tube in my car (before the turbo, of course).
How bad is the Racing Beat intake in terms of screwing with the MAF? I know you previously mentioned that it does screw with the MAF, tough it seems from RB's website that they were careful to preserve good airflow and make a MAF tube of approx the correct size. So I imagine it wouldn't screw with it quite as much as, say, an AEM CAI.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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I've only tried the AP on one RB setup and it also had the REVI duct. It wasn't too bad, but it ran to the negative trim side in the middle load level.
The AEM and MS are similar to the K&N v2.
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I've only tried the AP on one RB setup and it also had the REVI duct. It wasn't too bad, but it ran to the negative trim side in the middle load level.
The AEM and MS are similar to the K&N v2.
Thanks.

Do you think the RB air duct will have any negative effect on the stock intake?
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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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What MM said. I have it and the AP.

You will run a little leaner than what the maps are made for.
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