paulmasoner

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still not close to getting my car returned. but i DID hear some word about the steering lock. it sounds as if, it may be the same as old school ones still, just a little metal block/tab/rectangular thingy to remove!!

btw here is the car... what you cant see: 1. severe wheel misalignment 2. trunk floor foldin/wrinkled 3. the exhaust is fucked, thank GOD ins said OEM is $502 and Rosenthal is selling MS for $550

Aero8

wow, sorry about your car, but at least you can get the MS Exhaust!

Thanks for the update about the steering lock. When the temp gets out of the under 32 F range I will try to get back to this.

paulmasoner

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AERO!! my button finally came in. thats about it. i STILL dont have my car back from the shop. they are shooting for next week.

wow this is(maybe) gonna be a doozy to install as i have never looked at the wiring in the car before, and obviously the instructions are in japanese.

too bad i couldnt find a translated guide yet...

Conundrum

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Where did you get your button from?

paulmasoner

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mazdaparts.com

Detrich

i have a newbie question... (nice install btw) what modifications happen to the slot where u normally insert the key? ie do u still have to insert the key to push the start button, or do u replace the key hole w/ a stub? any pix?

Aero8

Awesome! well excecpt for the car not being done yet. are you getting a discount for it taking this long?? I would be pissed!

You'll be ok with the wiring once you get under there. it is a pain, but not horrible


Detrich, that is what paulmasoner and i have been working on. as of now I think we are the only two actually trying to make it completely keyless.

nothing phyiscally changes to the key hole. as it stands right now:

04-05 models:
right now, I have to put the key in, and turn it to disengage the steering lock. I can then turn the key to off, but leave the key in the ignition so that the steering wheel lock stays disengaged. once you remove the key it engages.

The transponder part of the key is also required, but i have a box that should remove this issue, i just haven't installed it.

06+:
These cars have the smart key system, so the transponder device that I have for mine is not needed. they do however, have the steering wheel lock issue.

since it is a **** rather than a key, I am not quite sure how it differs from the 04-05 but that is the current problem.


So, once paulmasoner gets his car back he is going to look into it.
Since it is nice out here again, I may dive back into this tomorrow. I am having my brake handle replaced tomorrow morning, and all the wires to my switches are disconnected so they don't mess anything up. when I am reattaching them ti will be a good time to try to finish it up.

imput1234

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Thats a cool mod, will be awesome if its near the DSC button

paulmasoner

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got my car back today. LOVE the MS exhaust. gotta put my box and amp in first tomorrow and make a floor/window for my amp. then i'm gonna work on the steering lock. i am putting off the start button till i get the steering lock done. i need some time to brainstorm how i am gonna get the JDM start button in the center of the console under the volume ****. the brackets etc that it comes with are gonna be uselesss.

i saw one guy on here that put the JDM button in that blank panel, like i want, i need to find him and ask how he fabbed a bracket to hold it in place

Aero8

awesome, does the ms exhaust drone a lot? or is it tolerable when cruising/

Mine is in the shop this morning, so hopefully when I get it back I will change to my summer wheels and hopefully get into the steering lock depending on time.

paulmasoner

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its quiet when cruising, it drones some under mild throttle depending on load. but when you get on it, it just sings.

gonna be a bit before i get to my start button. had issues today getting my sub in. i think my amp may be dead. couldnt get anything out of it, so i checked and rechecked everything, then i tohught well maybe its the LOC... so i hooked up to the hilevel inputs, nothing.

anyone know how to test the signal coming out of an amp with a multimeter?

silencer_tk

BTW in the actual S2000 you also have to insert the key, and turn it to the ON pos before utilizing the START button...

paulmasoner

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yeah, thats why this will be cooler when/if it ever works out

Type S Swap

you know after reading this entire thread, it came to me that it would be possible to rewire, the garage door buttons on the rearview mirror to do the exact same thing.

just a thought.

Aero8

wow, that is an awesome idea for keeping it totally hidden. Although that would be a lot of work to take apart half the interior to get to the roof.

paulmasoner

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that IS an AMAZING idea! IF(not likely) i ever change my radio and lose my start button, i will most definately do just that! ^

BoosTED

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Hmm a person should install a fail safe to prevent the starter from being engaged after it is already running.

That way if a person went to close the garage after backing the car out and then hit the wrong garage button (start button) it wouldn't eat up the flywheel.

Is this feature built in to the Mazda starter button kit?

Type S Swap

ok now you got me really thinking. IF this were to be done, i would think to disconnect the factory wiring from the desired button, as to not grind your starter/flywheel and re-wire using small gage leads. you wouldnt have to go that far if done correctly, i.e. - pull your 12v+ from the map light as well as a decent ground. only one wire must be routed now (well depending on you install pref from what i gather) to the clutch switch, and there is plenty of room to stuff a wire inbetween the windshield and the headliner. i have my radar detector routed like so and its placed above the mirror on the D/S. you cant even tell the wire is there.
when you get to the bottom of the A-pillar follow the lines of the dash to fuse panel and your good to go. Input? what do you think?

paulmasoner

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this sounds like a feasible idea. the way mine is currently, i ground off the bracket it comes on, and 86'd all the wiring except whats directly connected to the momentary switch. thats power, ground, and load. power is needed for the backlight LEDs. the way i tapped into the clutch switch, i can press the button all day long and nothing happens, unless i hold the clutch in.

Kane

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Hey paul....you know what I am fixing to ask, right?

paulmasoner

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Yeah, yeah... i know i know.... gimme some time.. and some extremely technical knowledge(if you have any)

Kane

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I have some...but it doesn't apply to key cylinders...

The only thing I have is SCDD rule 1 - There is no problem that cannot be solved by the proper application of explosives.

paulmasoner

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Hmmm, and i was JUST shoping today for some ingredients... i bought:

Etch-a-Sketch
Steel wool
Vinegar
Bleach
Play-Doh
Magnesium ribbon

take a guess at what im making?

Kane

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I saw nothing and heard nothing, and read even less.

I have no idea what you are talking about...

Etch-a-Sketch - Play Doh - for kids b-day party
Steel Wool and Bleach - Spring Cleaning.
Vinegar - Jellyfish Stings
Magnesium Ribbon - Extreme Camping fire starter

Right???

paulmasoner

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HOW DID YOU GUESS????

now i just gotta figure out what to destroy....... i do have a few dead/locked hard drives