Turbo or bike?
03-03-2005, 10:30 AM
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Turbo or bike?
So I have decided to either buy a used (probably 2003) honda cbr600 or a greddy turbo. But, I cannot decide which, so I was hoping some of you could help me.
The turbo would be a lot of fun but it will
1. void my warrenty
2. Probably cause constant hastle as I will probably constantly have to fix things that begin to break - Just past experience with modified cars.
3. Reduce the reliability of my car
4. Has very little resale value.
The bike would be ALOT of fun but
1. Is not practical, I'm not sure when I could ride it.
-Can't go shopping with it - where will I put the bags
- Can't go on long trips with it
- Can't ride to work very often on it - My job requires alot of professionalism and it could definitly look bad if I pulled up on a bike. Plus it would be difficult to wear a suit while riding a bike
- Don't have any other good friends with bikes - so aimless riding will only be so fun.
2. I do acknowledge the fact that it is dangerous, and I don't particularly want to go sliding across the pavement at 60mph.
I know I've made it sound like why get either, but that's because I figure all the good points are obvious, so I have only listed the bad points here.
The turbo would be a lot of fun but it will
1. void my warrenty
2. Probably cause constant hastle as I will probably constantly have to fix things that begin to break - Just past experience with modified cars.
3. Reduce the reliability of my car
4. Has very little resale value.
The bike would be ALOT of fun but
1. Is not practical, I'm not sure when I could ride it.
-Can't go shopping with it - where will I put the bags
- Can't go on long trips with it
- Can't ride to work very often on it - My job requires alot of professionalism and it could definitly look bad if I pulled up on a bike. Plus it would be difficult to wear a suit while riding a bike
- Don't have any other good friends with bikes - so aimless riding will only be so fun.
2. I do acknowledge the fact that it is dangerous, and I don't particularly want to go sliding across the pavement at 60mph.
I know I've made it sound like why get either, but that's because I figure all the good points are obvious, so I have only listed the bad points here.
03-03-2005, 10:56 AM
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bike or turbo
I am dealing with a similar situation right now. I have a 2004 yamha r6, and I just bought my rx8 in Jan. The bug to mod my car is kicking in hard, and I only put about 3000 miles on my bike last summer. If I sell it, I could free up some cash to do everthing I want. DECISIONS!
03-03-2005, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rkostolni
So I have decided to either buy a used (probably 2003) honda cbr600 or a greddy turbo. But, I cannot decide which, so I was hoping some of you could help me.
The turbo would be a lot of fun but it will
1. void my warrenty
2. Probably cause constant hastle as I will probably constantly have to fix things that begin to break - Just past experience with modified cars.
3. Reduce the reliability of my car
4. Has very little resale value.
The bike would be ALOT of fun but
1. Is not practical, I'm not sure when I could ride it.
-Can't go shopping with it - where will I put the bags
- Can't go on long trips with it
- Can't ride to work very often on it - My job requires alot of professionalism and it could definitly look bad if I pulled up on a bike. Plus it would be difficult to wear a suit while riding a bike
- Don't have any other good friends with bikes - so aimless riding will only be so fun.
2. I do acknowledge the fact that it is dangerous, and I don't particularly want to go sliding across the pavement at 60mph.
I know I've made it sound like why get either, but that's because I figure all the good points are obvious, so I have only listed the bad points here.
The turbo would be a lot of fun but it will
1. void my warrenty
2. Probably cause constant hastle as I will probably constantly have to fix things that begin to break - Just past experience with modified cars.
3. Reduce the reliability of my car
4. Has very little resale value.
The bike would be ALOT of fun but
1. Is not practical, I'm not sure when I could ride it.
-Can't go shopping with it - where will I put the bags
- Can't go on long trips with it
- Can't ride to work very often on it - My job requires alot of professionalism and it could definitly look bad if I pulled up on a bike. Plus it would be difficult to wear a suit while riding a bike
- Don't have any other good friends with bikes - so aimless riding will only be so fun.
2. I do acknowledge the fact that it is dangerous, and I don't particularly want to go sliding across the pavement at 60mph.
I know I've made it sound like why get either, but that's because I figure all the good points are obvious, so I have only listed the bad points here.
A 2003 Honda 6000 will be much more than the cost of a GReddy turbo, btw...but:
First thing you should do is head down to a Motorcycle shop and start trying on gear. Once you've purchsed riding pants/jacket with armor, armored gloves and boots, and a good quality helmet, sign up for and take a Motorcycle Safety Foundation course. Start shopping for a bike after you've got your endorsement.
- 1. Is not practical, I'm not sure when I could ride it.
Nor is a turbo Practical. - -Can't go shopping with it - where will I put the bags
You aren't trading the bike for the RX8...a turbo wouldn't help you go shopping either. - - Can't go on long trips with it
Says who? Why not? - - Can't ride to work very often on it - My job requires alot of professionalism and it could definitly look bad if I pulled up on a bike. Plus it would be difficult to wear a suit while riding a bike
On days you have to 'be professional' take the RX8 to work. Even with a turbo RX8, how professional would it be if your car wouldn't start...or was leaking oil or fuel because you broke a line?
The more systems you add to a car, the greater the chance of failure. - - Don't have any other good friends with bikes - so aimless riding will only be so fun.
Indeed - it's pretty fun to ride with a few ppl... - 2. I do acknowledge the fact that it is dangerous, and I don't particularly want to go sliding across the pavement at 60mph.
Because you've taken my advice, and purchased quality (no Joe Rocket stuff) gear, in the event you DO slide across pavement at 60mph, you'll be fine. Now..if you HIT an object during that slide, all bets are off. Still, you'd be amazded at what ppl can survive
Oh - and...remember....you're RX8 will NEVER be as fast as a modern 600cc bike. Your Rx8 - even if it runs 12s some day, will NEVER give you the sheer rush of adrenaline a modern 600cc bike can give.
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03-03-2005, 12:21 PM
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What would you guess I would pay for a good set of gear?
Also, I've been trying to find info that will help me equate car miles to motorcyle miles. From my understanding, having 15k miles on a bike is roughly equivalent to 100k on a car as far as remaining life and when problems begin. Would you say this is correct?
Also, I've been trying to find info that will help me equate car miles to motorcyle miles. From my understanding, having 15k miles on a bike is roughly equivalent to 100k on a car as far as remaining life and when problems begin. Would you say this is correct?
03-03-2005, 12:29 PM
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RX8 and a Truk....
Originally Posted by rkostolni
What would you guess I would pay for a good set of gear?
Decent Gloves = $75-100
Decent Boots = $150
Decent Textile Pants = $100-150?
Decent Textile Jacket = $150-300
Back Protector = $50-100
Also, I've been trying to find info that will help me equate car miles to motorcyle miles. From my understanding, having 15k miles on a bike is roughly equivalent to 100k on a car as far as remaining life and when problems begin. Would you say this is correct?
With proper maintenance, today's bikes are capable of 50K miles easy...prolly 100K under some conditions.
http://www.cycleforums.com is a GREAT resource!
03-03-2005, 12:32 PM
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I love my motorcycle and had it way before my 8. I will never give up riding. Get the bike, get GOOD gear, take the MSF course if you are a new rider, and then find a track day. I have converted from a street bike to a race bike and hope to get my racing license this year. once you get on a track, you will never go back to street riding. I love my 8, but NOTHING comes close to going 140mph+ down the back straight at Road Atlanta, before braking hard for turns 10a/10b....all without having to deal with traffic, SUV's, and stupid drivers in general. A motorcycle is a great thing to ride on the street, but just like racing cars, save racing bikes for the street. Unfortunately, a lot of stupid riders dont do that....
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03-03-2005, 10:17 PM
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Get the bike. Without getting into other things, the bike will allow you to go out and hunt down Porsche 911 Turbos and AMG SL65's at will. No matter how high you crank the boost on the Greddy will the RX8 be able to keep up with either car I mentioned. Heck with my 05 I barely kept up with a Boxster S the other night. I did however embarass a guy with personalized plates reading 'AMG GUY' and his SL55. That was with my wife on the back of the bike too. But thats just my take on your dilemma. Whatever you do, just have fun and be safe. BTW I am doing the exhaust, midpipe and suspension on my 8. Just so at least I can keep up with Z's without wringing my baby full out!!
03-03-2005, 10:56 PM
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This is hysterical that someone posted this, I have been having the exact same conflict. Greddy turbo or a used cbr600 or gsxr600. I haven't come to a decision yet, waiting for the weather to warm up and my funds to grow more. I'm leaning towards the bike at this point.
03-04-2005, 12:03 PM
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I agree, the bike is a whole different story. I have a heavily modded GSXR1000 & RC51. There is now way to match the bike performance with a car less than BIG $$$$$ exotic. My RX8 is a blast on the same mountain roads ue to the handling. My suggestion is get the bike and update the RX8 suspension and get a light weight flywheel. That is my plan.
03-04-2005, 07:21 PM
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sounds to me like all your reasons about getting a bike suck. if you are, please get an r6.
get the greddy turbo...but i would wait and see if other owners on the forum with it experience any real problems to see if its reliable enough for you. just because a car gets a little bit of forced induction doesn't always mean the cars reliability is going to be ****. alot depends on how you drive it and take care of it. good luck.
get the greddy turbo...but i would wait and see if other owners on the forum with it experience any real problems to see if its reliable enough for you. just because a car gets a little bit of forced induction doesn't always mean the cars reliability is going to be ****. alot depends on how you drive it and take care of it. good luck.
03-05-2005, 12:05 PM
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[*]2. I do acknowledge the fact that it is dangerous, and I don't particularly want to go sliding across the pavement at 60mph.
Because you've taken my advice, and purchased quality (no Joe Rocket stuff) gear, in the event you DO slide across pavement at 60mph, you'll be fine. Now..if you HIT an object during that slide, all bets are off. Still, you'd be amazded at what ppl can survive
Because you've taken my advice, and purchased quality (no Joe Rocket stuff) gear, in the event you DO slide across pavement at 60mph, you'll be fine. Now..if you HIT an object during that slide, all bets are off. Still, you'd be amazded at what ppl can survive
03-05-2005, 12:12 PM
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BTW... I agree. While the bike will cost a bit more than $3-5k for the GReddy turbo kit and install... the bike is faster out of the box. Add an exhaust system and go up a tooth on the rear sprocket... WOAH BABY!!! The RX-8 will never be able to touch you. Lastly... a nice handling car is fun, but nothing is more fun than whipping a bike through the curves... especially on a track. OMG... just running behind a pacecar at Motegi was amazing...
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