CKay

Hey guys, I was planning on getting the Tanabe NF springs coming up, but i remember reading some where that if you just get springs and not shock and everything else it can really mess up ur car. I was just wondering if this is true, or will I be fine with just the springs.

speeddemon32

youll be fine.

CKay

OK thanks man

kwescott

your struts may wear out faster due to the change in spring rate and dropped spring...but there is no rule that you have to change your struts at the same time....just a recommendation.

speeddemon32

ok got a little more information.

Kwescott and myself (Thanks Kwescott) took the Sprints out of my car (well 2 of them) just to test the rates. Same testing as the stock springs and the Mazdaspeed springs.

Here is what I got:

Front
165
180
195

Rear
95
100
100


Dont know if anyone cares... but there you have it. :D

gh0st

are you still planning on changing them?

speeddemon32

no I dea now.....

Leaning twords keeping them in since at least they look cool. the only spring right now I am considering is the Tein S tech. I just wish I knew someone that had them NOT instaleld so I could test them first.


I just wish I had the money to go coil overs...

speeddemon32

Called Petit.... they do not know the spring rates of their custom order Eibachs. they also mentioned that they dont really deal with Eibach any more.

added this info to the first page. (along with the sprint info)

kwescott

I'm starting to think that Springs (within our price range anyways) are just for looks (ride height). It looks like you have to have some good money to throw at suspension to truely get something in the range that we are looking for.

speeddemon32

yes..... I WANT COILOVERS!!!!!!!!

I simply cant afford them though.... at least not without being stupid. :/

but yeah, they are all pretty much for looks. I mean minor ride differances. but for what I want I need coilovers considering I am wanting to double the spring rate.... or more.

gh0st

my fiend wants to sell me a new set of megans for under $900 total. they are 12kg/672lb front and 10kg/560lb rear (you can get 10/8 but its extra $$). the shocks are made by apexi and are monotube 32 way adjustable. the rears still have to be taken off to be adjusted from what i could tell but there are extender cables that you can get from megan that allows you to adjust them from your trunk. the fronts use pollowball mounts but ive driven a car with these and i couldnt tell the difference. they felt good though. much better dampening then the tein basics.

however, they didnt feel that much better then my voughtland/ koni combo. better yes, but not good enough for me to make the switch. i dont really need height adjustability (suposedly 2 way adjustable but not really... the top adjuster is for preload). the quality seemed decent. the springs had some scratched but that was about it. i dont like how the rear shocks bolt up to the car but its more solid then i give them credit for.

if you want them, ill tell him to give you the set instead of me. i gotta leave my car as is until after the academy.

gh0st

i fnd this on their web site:

Megan Racing Coil-Over Dampers are the ultimate upgrade to your track or street car. Featuring 32 Levels of damper force adjustment, full-height adjustment, these damper kits are then perfectly matched with front and rear Pillow Ball upper mounts for camber correction in most applications.

The adjustment of the damper is as simple as can be with a built-in **** at the top of the damper mount for easy access. Simple adjustments can be made to tune to your style of driving and comfort level desired. Single-Adjustable dampers make suspension adjustments easy to tune whether you’re a professional mechanic or an automotive enthusiast with amateur mechanical skills.

The height adjustment is made easy with CNC-Machined locking perches for accuracy and smooth adjustment. You can raise your car up to factory height for OEM appearance with performance handling or you can drop your car all the way down for a formal racetrack and an aggressive stance lowering your center of gravity to gain full potential of your car’s handling capabilities.

On most applications, the Megan Racing Damper Kits come with fully adjustable Pillow-Ball upper mounts to easily tune and adjust your camber. Adjustable camber gives you an edge on most suspension setups, as you can easily tune your car for any ride height which improves handling, predictability and furthermore tire wear, which is a great benefit both on the racetrack and on the street.

The quality and durability of the Megan Racing Damper kits are unmatched. Made of extremely durable Steel and featuring springs that are constructed of SAE-9254 Cold-Wound Steel which are then tested over 500,000 times by compression inspection. With deformation less than 5% and high strength sophisticated surface coating, we stand by our product with our strong warranty.
Features:

- Spring Rates: 12kg Front and 10kg Rear

- 32 Levels of Adjustable Damper

- Pillow Ball Upper Mounts.

- Rubber Dust Covers.

- Adjustable Ride Height

- Aggressive Spring Rates

- Single-Cylinder Design

- Aluminum Brackets

32 Levels of Adjustment:

1-8: Suggested for track use.
9-16: Suggested for mountain/aggressive use.
17-32: Suggested for common street use.

- All coilover damper kits come with 1 year manufacture-defect warranty.

- All Hardware is Included

- SELLING PRICE : $1050.00 per set.






i guess $900 shipped isnt that great. i thought i was getting a better deal then that.

kwescott

Guess there is room for making offers then. Casey, offer him 750 for the set and see if he takes them. You could probably make most of that back by selling the Sprints and Konis...if you end up liking them enough to keep them....or you could sell them on the RX8 site and just keep your Sprints/Konis. I'm sure you could unload them for 750.

gh0st

i doubt he will sell for less then that. he suposedly gets them for 875 from megan. he was gonna sell me a set for only $20 profit.

kwescott

ahhh, the way you described that they were scratched lead me to believe they were used.

chickenwafer

iTrader: (9)

speeddemon: I just got the Koni shocks and Sprint springs, I think you have a similar setup? Hopefully I'll get the drop you got. It's still half the price of a good coilover kit

kwescott

chickenwafer...I hope you don't have the appearance package. That sprint drop is LOW.

speeddemon32

I have that exact setup...... make sure you post me some pictures here!!!

gh0st

no... unfortunatly, i was the one that picked them up from the warehouse. it may have happened during shipping. food for thought, my vougtlands had paint chipped off the springs when i got them as well.

chickenwafer

iTrader: (9)

yeah I have the AP.....I kwo it's low but Phoenix is pretty level for the most part. I was going to get the Veilside lip but I'll wait to see how low I go.

MM's car is SUPER low with the Tokico D-specs and AutoEXE springs- he tucks the rear tires, and runs the MS kit....I wonder if I'll be lower than him....

Speeddemon: I will post pics once they on in a week or so. I'm waiting for my GT Factory vertical door kit to be installed and then I'll take one giant photoshoot

speeddemon32

Awsome. I look fowrard to seeing it. I am sure you will be lower. I have yet to see a sprint that is as low as the Sprints. (not talking about coil overs, or someone that cut their springs)

I love my sprints (well the way they look at least) I dont think I would want to go any lower though. I have a hard time getting in and out of places. I get stuck often. I sure as hell would not want any thing hanging off the front of the car as it would get destroyed.

also there comes a point when you get tooooo low. then it just looks like your on bags, or you just cut the springs to dump it. I think the sprints are the "perfect" drop. very agressive, but not stupid looking.

you made a good choice.

chickenwafer

iTrader: (9)

yeah, if they're too low I might switch out to Tein S-Tech's or Swifts.....Still not sure. But I got a smoken deal on the Sprints so I'll stick with them. We'll see if I tuck my rear tires

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

dang it Casey, I wish I would have known about this sooner. I had a pair of S-Techs (actualy 2 full sets) sitting in my garage for about a month!

peterisurhero

damn!! i want the sprints too!! hahah i am debating whether to go with sprints or espelirs. i love the sprints drop tho. SO SEXY. hahah right casey? hahah

speeddemon32

thats right!

I will be taking the car in on Tuesday to get the alignment, so it look slike I will be sticking with the sprints. I figure they are pretty much the same rates as every other spring, and I love the drop... so Sprints it is for me.

Peter, you can always just get yourself a set of sprints new. they are not expensive springs. I think I paid $250 for them 2 1/2 years ago.


Jedi....... yeah, that would have been nice! :/