The mid range gains are so noticeable it's insane, however my feeling is that overall performance (especially at the top end) is not hugely affected. I wouldn't be surprised to see 10-15lb/ft improvement around 3-6k and top end not changed at all. The sound isn't a lot different than the stock manifold, but with a test pipe and TurboXS exhaust you could really tell something was different... ;]

 

The BHR long tube should be ready for sale shortly. Double digit HP gains was the goal.

 

Can't freaking wait, lol. gonna start putting more money in my 8 now that i've started working

 

source

 

Still waiting on the price and first review of the BHR long tube......
But when?

 

pictures?

 

Vaporware

 

Yeah I'll believe this is real when I see Duke Nukem Forever at Bestbuy...

oh wait...

 

A handful of people have test fitted it/used prototypes apparently, everyone is hyping it up and it isn't even out yet. No different than Bisimoto did years back with his old header designs in the Honda communities. People have been talking about the BHR header for ~3 years now.


Until I see one for sale, it's vaporware lol.

 

Give 'em hell, Ray.

Any way possible to offer a td01 or universal type bolt on option?

 

Getting mad about it/defensive about it most certainly makes me want to buy your products.


You can't throw a rock on this forum and not hit a "header" thread where everyone says "Just wait for the BHR header". And it's been that way for the better part of ~3 years. Or at least since I've been a member here. If you don't want people speculating over your products, stop announcing them YEARS before you have a test mule/even hit the drawing board. People take an idea and run with it haha.

Since you aren't familiar with the term "Vaporware"

Vaporware

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Vaporware is a term in the computer industry that describes a product, typically computer hardware or software, that is announced to the general public but is never actually released nor officially cancelled. Vaporware is also a term sometimes used to describe events that are announced or predicted, never officially cancelled, but never intended to happen. The term also generally applies to a product that is announced months or years before its release, and for which public development details are lacking. The word has been applied to a growing range of products including consumer, automobiles, and some stock trading practices. At times, vendors are criticized for intentionally producing vaporware in order to keep customers from switching to competitive products that offer more features.[1]


Now, I don't know how that description isn't hitting the nail on the head. I understand R&D takes a while, and you guys have done the community a great service offering quality products as well as a ton of information. I didn't mean the message to be malicious in the least. I'm just calling it how I see it. And if you don't see people hyping it, perhaps you should open your eyes. People have been worshipping the idea of a BHR longtube header as a "saving grace" for the NA crowd for a long time now. I waited for 2 years for you to release it, got tired of waiting and modified an available header to suit my needs.


Now, back to what I referenced in my original post. People gave bisi hell for YEARS until he finally released his header for the D/H/B and K series Honda engines. The wait was well worth it, but he did the same stuff. I understand the community can be aggravating/irritating, but it's equally as aggravating & irritating when a trusted vendor announces a product and leaks a few photos here and there to "dangle the carrot" so to speak.



But what do I know. I'm sure you and all your cronies will jump down my throat for doing anything short of letting you e-teabag me

 

I don't really understand why someone would get mad at a vendor for not releasing something? It's not like they have an obligation to make anything regardless of what their claims may be. If you don't want to wait or don't think there is a point in waiting, just buy something else. Why be mad about it?

 

I don't get it, either. I appreciate the updates on product development. I understand that they can take a great deal of time, especially with a business that's busy with supporting and making their other product lines. I'm still excited to see and read more about the BHR long tube header.

 

What I want to know is if I buy the BHR header, if my newly bought, two day old BHR midpipe will be worthless - which I bet it will be, and if there will be some sort of swapping option or a free midpipe with the header, etc.

 

AFAIK, your new midpipe won't fit. It will be too long. The long tube header will come with or have optional a tube that allows it to connect to the oem exhaust or aftermarket catback. We will just have to wait and see when it's released.

 

Well, it'd be hard for anyone to see that you're mad when you go back and delete all of your old posts, but whatever. And yeah, as far as number 5 is concerned, I'm totally out to get you. Right now I'm having a meeting with Lex Luthor and other supervillans. We are conspiring against you and doing whatever we can to slander your good name.


Give me a break. Get off of your soapbox. Also, don't worry about me not buying your vaporware header. I've already stated that I've modified an existing header to suit my needs. If things keep going the way they have been, the RX7 will be available before your header hits the market, since it's a "low hanging fruit" item that won't net you much profit.


Go ahead and rally up all of the people who buy your products. Get the community to tell me to "go eff myself". That's not a character trait I'd like to have as a business owner, but hey, to each their own. Like I said, I never meant for the post to be anything near malicious, but if that's what you want to make of it, by all means go for it.

 

oh dear.

 

I admit that I simply don't understand your position Stray.

 

Just so you and everyone else is aware, CRH has always deleted old post. Likely (I'm guessing) ones he felt were relevant only for a short period of time and to aid in searching for information.

 

I already have the BHR midpipe with no cat, so with the RB header you think it will sound nice?

 

Yes.

 

I have the BHR midpipe and RB headers, I'm happy with it.

Don't expect a noticeably louder exhaust tone increase over stock. however it is different, deeper, throatier.

 

...when you punch it you can hear more of a bark/scream from the header in the mid-high rpm range. Barely noticeable difference at idle.

 

Will there be a noticable increase in sound with the Racing Beat headers ??as i already have an autoexe catback running ..and what if i buy the RB cat delete pipe as well will it make the car louder?

 

Yes

Your ears will bleed. Your neighbors will want to kill you.