Fatman0203

After reading 12 pages, then 10, then some more on the discussion of NOS on the Renesis, I never heard a conclusion.
I heard a "rumor" about hitting the NOS and the ports not open and its bad etc etc.
Then I heard another "rumor" that you cant run NOS on the renesis something about the UIM (Upper Intake Manifold) cause it to go to one rotor.

So finally the question.

Is it possible?
Has it been proven?
Any companys make it?

Finally a bit off topic, but are there any ignition amplifiers out yet for the RX8? Like the HKS Twin Pak for the 7.

Thanks For Your Time

Feras

iTrader: (1)

no disrespect to you or anything, but please don't do this to your car. This car is no drag racer and in no way needs or should ever have a nitrous system installed. you really really want a boost in power, wait for forced induction in whatever form it comes out in.

Redlinin 8

he asked a question not for opinions....let him do what he wants lol

Fatman0203

Well honestly I see nothing wrong with NOS if done correctly and used sparringly. When I mean correctly I mean wet system with adequate fuel to support the air. I mean its a bit annoying when an SRT-4 bone stock can usually give you a whooping. BTW I dont have the car, Im just interested in it (I have a 93 RX7). Forced inductionIve seen is the SR Engineering and I think they still have some time until they finish their testing on it. So , anyone have any FACTS about use of NOS on the Rx8? Thank You~

Omicron

As far as I can recall, no one has done it yet and posted details about it on the forums. It's been discussed extensively, but no actual experience. Charles R. Hill is probably the closest to doing it, so you might want to get him involved in a discussion.

titaniumgrey

why does everyone call it by the brand name nos ... isn't it nitrous ? but w/e ... i call it nos sometimes ... so its all good :D

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

Why are we so stuck on semantics? Have you ever routinely used the terms "band-aids" or "kleenex"? When a company is the most noted, or first innovator, we usually refer to all products in the genre as their brand name.

C

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

Thx for the mention/props Omicron. Many of us are involved in the discussion and research on the use of nitrous oxide injection and we have come to a couple of conclusions. 1) There should be no problem using a well-engineered system up to 50+/- h.p. Beyond that, there are some ignition timing concerns. This is typical in all setups anyway, so that's good news. Second, the part number from Zex is 82021. The part number from NX is 20923-XX. The "XX" is the size bottle you would like with the kit. A 10# bottle would then be "20923-10". The Zex is an electrically activated system that is modular in design and the NX is mechanically activated and individually pieced.

MY OPINION ONLY: I would prefer the Zex system because I am looking for a clean and tidy-looking installation that can be somewhat hidden from view when the average idiot looks under my hood. I am also going to use a 75 h.p., or greater, boost witrh the appropriate considerations intact. Whether my accomodations come by way of ECU mods or a stand-alone fuel system I have yet to decide.

Charles

titaniumgrey

iono just seems kind of weird to me .... thats like calling all exhausts borlas ... just doesn't seem right , but thats just my opinion , not like anyone cares ...

RolenImportsRX8

Didn't they install nitrous on the first episode of Tuner Transformation?

HiTMaNN

i dont know if you missed it the srt is technically not stock it has forced induction

tommy12g

just FYI nos is n o 2 one particle of nitrogen and particles of oxigen, that is why people might call it NOS since its a play on its empirical formula

Genom

If yer gonna be **** (no offense) about the name, might as well use the correct one. It's not nitrous. It's nitrous oxide.

And tell me, how do you like your refrigerated water mixed with gelatin and fruit flavoring?

The guy that had his 8 on TT mentioned that it was a 35 shot wet I believe and he never fired it (they fired it once on the show for the dyno). Thats about all I remember.

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

The definition of "stock" is one that has been debated in the automotive world since the advent of the musclecar. To say that a car is no longer stock because hit has a turbo package on it is to ignore the attempt by the manufacturer to not only bring a higher level of performance to the consumer, but to also do so while conforming with federal regulations. With all of the current regs and political correctness I am impressed that the auto companies still make such cars as the SRT4, Sti, and RX-8. If we were to adopt the position that performance enhancers added at the factory level rendered a vehicle no longer "stock" then we would have to say that the Chevy LS6 was not a production engine and that the Ford 427 SOHC and Chrysler 426 Hemi were mere racing engines. What about the seriously advanced technology inherent in the rotary? Could the same things be said obout rotary engines that are/were said about the other engines I mentioned? Don't forget that the rotary engine experiences many handicaps in different racing classes because of the different nature of its operation.

Charles

Fatman0203

Ok first can people stop bickering about calling it NOS or Nitrous Oxide 2 Atoms etc etc.

2nd, Charles I have a good friend of mine currently using a "Dry" (moron) Zex sytem of nos (75 shot) on his GSR Integra, now I know this is piston but I agree the kit is extremly simple and clean, and safe, only activated at WOT. Now when you say a "well" engineered system. What do you mean by well, do you mean your basic system with something fancy added? Or the addition of an ECU upgrade/ control to control timing and other factors?

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

What I mean by "well-engineered" is one that has taken into consideration the many accomodations that must be made to install nitrous. For example, I would rather pick up the fuel supply from the Schrader valve than cut into the fuel rail supply line. Aircraft fittings seem much more reliable than a couple of hose clamps and a "T" fitting. Second, as in the Zex case, the nitrous pressure is monitored by the solenoid module so rich conditions are less likely. Third, to me an efficient installation is impressive. The fewer parts the end-user needs to install the better the chances are of doing it properly. Fourth, in my own case, I am considering manipulating the fuel itself instead of the ECU ignition timing to accomodate the nitrous. Some might think that is crazy but I would like to wait and see what Racing Beat does with the ECU re-flashes until I replace my ECU. In the meantime I can control detonation by using a stand-alone fuel supply which is used only during nitrous injection and supplying the fuel nozzle with 110 octane. In this setup the engine will derive the benefits of 97 octane fuel while I only use the expensive stuff when I really need it. All other driving uses 93 octane.

Charles

Charles R. Hill

iTrader: (7)

One other thing, Fatman, your friend was most likely doing the best thing for his Integra when he used a dry system. I say this because he probably has either a Hondata(or similar) ECU whereby the fuel maps can be easily modified by the end-user to activate under nitrous use. His stock injectors are also either up to the task or he has replaced them, as well. If either is not the case, the stock fuel pressure reg. is controlled to deliver the fuel to the nitrous kit solenoids under full load. This way there is adequate fuel pressure and volume to handle the situation. That's one bummer about the Honda/Acura stuff; they are the Chevrolet of the import world and have tons of upgrades at their disposal. The benfit of the rotary when it comes to upgrades? Everyone knows that we rotary owners must be serious s.o.b.'s if we have turbos, superchargers, nitrous, and all the other things that the other imports do because we don't have the plethora of things at our disposal like everyone else. Therefore, if they run into a decked-out RX they know enough to beware!!

Pardon my enthusiasm. I am overwhelmed by the RX-8 from time to time.

Charles