View Poll Results: Use N2O with RX-8?
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11-18-2003, 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by ranger4277
I changed my mind. Go for the NOS.
I changed my mind. Go for the NOS.
Rotarygod - I BOUGHT this car yes because it's kick *** cool, but Auto-X requires people to be 18 or 21 years-old i think (I'm 17 in Feb.). Im also a person that loves glory, and nobody is gona come a hour away from home to see sumthen that wont last long! IS IT A CRIME TO WANT YOUR CAR TO GO FAST? And f.y.i: i hate hearing people talk about the RX-8 being as fast as the RSX(s), I'm tryen to keep up the 8's name in my area!
Any car can be cool, but people will never see that shiney thing back in the dust!
oh yea, so what u all think?
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11-18-2003, 07:00 PM
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You aren't even 18 yet! Holy crap I wish I'd have had a cool car at that age. I was always told that you could autocross provided that you had a valid drivers license. There are more events than just the SCCA events. Here the Porshe club and the BMW club both hold events. Their rules are less strict as well.
Nope, not a crime to want a faster car. It should be a crime to modify your car improperly. Nothing better to brag about at school then how you blew up your brand new car when you changed something. You'll never hear the end of that. There's more glory at the end of the day by keeping them wondering than by towing your car home. Also consider that it is because of the pathetic viagra like egos of people that street racing has gotten so deadly. I'm sorry but until you have driven for at least 5 years, you are a novice! Kids think they can drive great but I can go to any local highschool and prove 99.9% of them flat wrong. I see the way they drive after school, how they cut people off, how they don't yield to others, how they try to race everything from a Porsche to a little old lady with a walker. I know it's true because I was a kid once and I drove like that too. Then I grew up and learned how to drive. There are reasons why insurance rates are higher for kids and this attitude proves it. When I turned 18 my insurance went down 10%. When I turned 21 it went down 50%. When I turned 25 it went down 50%. WOW what a difference. I have 3 cars now, full coverage and I pay $150 and month. I consider that a little high too. It was twice that as a teenager for just 1 car!
I hate to be the bearer of realism but the RSX, and the stock WRX are just as fast as the RX-8. Sorry man. They have been out longer than the RX-8 and the aftermarket support is much greater. The WRX can be much faster for almost no money at all. That is the advantage of a turbo. I know which car is better in the twisties though and that is yours. I personally think that the RX-8 is the best looking too. The RSX looks like a little bubbly windup toy. The WRX is just a standard Impreza family car with a little makeup. Yay (sarcasm in the voice of Ben Stein).
Why do you care what others think of your car? I know why. Hormones. Trust me that's it. I've been there. Wait until a propely designed kit comes out and then show them up. You can wait. Like I said you aren't even driving in 2004 yet but your car is a 2004 model. Get over it. If you can't and absolutely have to beat them with a rotary, go buy an RX-7. The 3rd gen is still one if the sexiest cars ever made and is easy to go fast in.
I support a fast car. I like mods. I don't like doing them though until I know with absolute certainty what the outcome will be. If you blow the engine up, you will look really bad, everyone here will say we told you so and everyone at school will say your car sucks. Even if you fix it, the damage and opinions will be established. Is that worth the risk of waiting a few months? It isn't for me but then again I'm not the one with anything to prove to anyone.
I'm not hatin' on you. I'm just trying to be the voice of reason. Too many people ignore that voice and pay for it, sometimes horribly. Please don't become a statistic.
Nope, not a crime to want a faster car. It should be a crime to modify your car improperly. Nothing better to brag about at school then how you blew up your brand new car when you changed something. You'll never hear the end of that. There's more glory at the end of the day by keeping them wondering than by towing your car home. Also consider that it is because of the pathetic viagra like egos of people that street racing has gotten so deadly. I'm sorry but until you have driven for at least 5 years, you are a novice! Kids think they can drive great but I can go to any local highschool and prove 99.9% of them flat wrong. I see the way they drive after school, how they cut people off, how they don't yield to others, how they try to race everything from a Porsche to a little old lady with a walker. I know it's true because I was a kid once and I drove like that too. Then I grew up and learned how to drive. There are reasons why insurance rates are higher for kids and this attitude proves it. When I turned 18 my insurance went down 10%. When I turned 21 it went down 50%. When I turned 25 it went down 50%. WOW what a difference. I have 3 cars now, full coverage and I pay $150 and month. I consider that a little high too. It was twice that as a teenager for just 1 car!
I hate to be the bearer of realism but the RSX, and the stock WRX are just as fast as the RX-8. Sorry man. They have been out longer than the RX-8 and the aftermarket support is much greater. The WRX can be much faster for almost no money at all. That is the advantage of a turbo. I know which car is better in the twisties though and that is yours. I personally think that the RX-8 is the best looking too. The RSX looks like a little bubbly windup toy. The WRX is just a standard Impreza family car with a little makeup. Yay (sarcasm in the voice of Ben Stein).
Why do you care what others think of your car? I know why. Hormones. Trust me that's it. I've been there. Wait until a propely designed kit comes out and then show them up. You can wait. Like I said you aren't even driving in 2004 yet but your car is a 2004 model. Get over it. If you can't and absolutely have to beat them with a rotary, go buy an RX-7. The 3rd gen is still one if the sexiest cars ever made and is easy to go fast in.
I support a fast car. I like mods. I don't like doing them though until I know with absolute certainty what the outcome will be. If you blow the engine up, you will look really bad, everyone here will say we told you so and everyone at school will say your car sucks. Even if you fix it, the damage and opinions will be established. Is that worth the risk of waiting a few months? It isn't for me but then again I'm not the one with anything to prove to anyone.
I'm not hatin' on you. I'm just trying to be the voice of reason. Too many people ignore that voice and pay for it, sometimes horribly. Please don't become a statistic.
11-18-2003, 08:49 PM
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It was a sarcastic point I was making because your reason for wanting more power is stupid. More power is ok, but not for racing people at your high school. That is dumb.
Not to be taken personally, not my intent... once an older brother always an older brother I guess. :D
Whatever your solution for more power, do keep us informed. I know I am interested to hear how it goes. But to clarify my REAL answer is still: be patient and wait for a properly tuned turbo setup.
(you are very lucky to have a car like the 8 at 16)
Not to be taken personally, not my intent... once an older brother always an older brother I guess. :D
Whatever your solution for more power, do keep us informed. I know I am interested to hear how it goes. But to clarify my REAL answer is still: be patient and wait for a properly tuned turbo setup.
(you are very lucky to have a car like the 8 at 16)
11-18-2003, 10:06 PM
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TiTaniumRX8, you bought the wrong car. You should have bought an svt stang or an evo. By the way, you just opened yourself or a flaming. It's not that street racing is illegal, it's that you can hurt or kill someone innocent person. You might be the best driver in the universe but you have to remember you’re sharing the road with some really bad drivers. For example, lets say your racing your buddy and someone runs a light and you t-bone them. By default the accident is your fault and it doesn't matter if that person ran the light. If that person were to die, you're going to the big house /w a vehicular homicide charge. Then you'll have plenty of time to think about why you chose instant gratification over a human life. You might think, super your nuts, that’ll never happen to me. Well, I have a friend serving an 8 year bid for vehicular homicide for killing his fiancé. He wasn’t racing, just speeding about 15 mph over the speed limit, lost control and ran into a light pole. It can happen to anyone, it’s just a matter of time. If you can’t make it to a track, take it to a private road. That’s what I do. Just keep it off public streets.
11-18-2003, 11:17 PM
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i usually dont end up racing in the public streets thats just stupid (as if i need my insurace jacked up!), i see people on i-95 they high beam me and then they just past me and that about all they can do, but if i get to a back road usually by the railroad tracks by the cement factory now...thats our secret spot. we get together, we know what could happen, we do it anyways. but you still end up taking the same risk in a closed street than if you go out to your local track. I say if you can do it responsibly theres no reason why you shouldnt race, even if its not on the tracks.
11-19-2003, 11:37 AM
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Dear TitaniumRX8,
Im currently 18, and there is no way a 16 year old could buy an RX8 HIMSELF, especially the one thats worth buying (the six speed, and if your parents made you get the auto, there is no hope for you to go fast, ever, at all, might as well get a PT cuiser). If I were you I would get over the fact that you just got your license and want to take part in the "underground culture" of street racing. Given, I do not have an extensive background in street racing, I know its not for young rich boys who just got a brand spankin new 33+k car from their daddy (you might as well have posted that you "bought" a 3 series BMW, almost the same price, equally as improbable). If you really think you can hold your own with the real street racers, those guys live for friday night so they can either A) beat someone in their car B) look good or C) beat the crap out of posers who have no idea whats going on and end up offending some guy who is going to jail next week (been there, not pretty). If you plan on just dragging your friends who also just got their licenses, how will you explain your actions to the officers when you cant apply the brakes fast enough to avoid the person crossing the street when you are going 70+mph? Or if you accidentally miss 5th and throw it into reverse, making your pretty new toy do a backflip? basically, keep it in your pants buddy, and if you cant get laid by driving the stock RX-8, you might as well sell it and invest the money in college, so you can become even more rich, and get a trophy wife. Didnt mean to bash you as bad as I did, but you set yourself up, and Its about time someone taught you a lesson son.
Im currently 18, and there is no way a 16 year old could buy an RX8 HIMSELF, especially the one thats worth buying (the six speed, and if your parents made you get the auto, there is no hope for you to go fast, ever, at all, might as well get a PT cuiser). If I were you I would get over the fact that you just got your license and want to take part in the "underground culture" of street racing. Given, I do not have an extensive background in street racing, I know its not for young rich boys who just got a brand spankin new 33+k car from their daddy (you might as well have posted that you "bought" a 3 series BMW, almost the same price, equally as improbable). If you really think you can hold your own with the real street racers, those guys live for friday night so they can either A) beat someone in their car B) look good or C) beat the crap out of posers who have no idea whats going on and end up offending some guy who is going to jail next week (been there, not pretty). If you plan on just dragging your friends who also just got their licenses, how will you explain your actions to the officers when you cant apply the brakes fast enough to avoid the person crossing the street when you are going 70+mph? Or if you accidentally miss 5th and throw it into reverse, making your pretty new toy do a backflip? basically, keep it in your pants buddy, and if you cant get laid by driving the stock RX-8, you might as well sell it and invest the money in college, so you can become even more rich, and get a trophy wife. Didnt mean to bash you as bad as I did, but you set yourself up, and Its about time someone taught you a lesson son.
11-19-2003, 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by rotarygod
I personally don't care when someone wants to race me. I am more mature than that. You didn't buy that car for all out speed. You bought it because it is the coolest car available right now. If you wanted speed for that price you should have bought an LS1 Camaro. You wouldn't be as cool looking though. I've learned that high school kids who want to race typically aren't worth racing in the first place. I KNOW I can drive good. I've done it longer than they have. I'm not the one with anything to prove so why do I need to race? Their opinion of me is worthless anyways.
I personally don't care when someone wants to race me. I am more mature than that. You didn't buy that car for all out speed. You bought it because it is the coolest car available right now. If you wanted speed for that price you should have bought an LS1 Camaro. You wouldn't be as cool looking though. I've learned that high school kids who want to race typically aren't worth racing in the first place. I KNOW I can drive good. I've done it longer than they have. I'm not the one with anything to prove so why do I need to race? Their opinion of me is worthless anyways.
I'm with you Rotary...
Hey kid, not knocking you or putting you down at all...god knows I was there as well when I was 17. I started my own Car Audio and Tuning store and thought I was a badass...yes at 17!!(with a little help from my parents of course). Anyway...grow up...to race is to become one with your car...you have to know it's limits and yours as well...who cares if some guy in a WRX blows you away..let him look like the high school racer wannabe he is...a racer knows his car, knows what he can accomplish, and definitely does it in an appropriate environment...don't be that guy that wraps his sweet ride around a pole because of an ego trip....let it go man...live to race another day...
11-19-2003, 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by djmano
rotarygod pretty much sumed it up........the rx-8 is not a dragster.
rotarygod pretty much sumed it up........the rx-8 is not a dragster.
11-19-2003, 05:55 PM
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Buster17- i know it seams crayz but the bill and insurence on the car do come to me. worken 2 jobs man.... secondly, your "street race culture" is not what im talking about, it's just haven fun at 2am on a closed off dead end/parking lot. that shyt is in china town (chicago) i think. and uh... 17 in 3 months plus parents let me behind the wheel at 13. getting laid is no prob, w/ or w/o the 8, College lol man i just got a decent (not great) but decent 29 on ACT and im in the 3.4/3.8 range for grades man... also lookin at offers for lacrosse. please rip on sum-1 who is actually what u were sayen. Cant help if my 16/17 y/o mind thinks like this... but im not the only one looken to put HP on my 8 for w/e reason. YET, IM NOT looken to make this car crayz fast, dont know what id do w/ it.
I know 16, unresponsible, ect... but i didnt start this to get ripped on (set myself up being 16 i guess though. :D )im maken a stop at one of the local performance stores to see whats up, thinkin a spoiler would be nice 2 keep me happy 4 a while. I'll keep u all informed. If any more suggestions from anyone, leme know.
I know 16, unresponsible, ect... but i didnt start this to get ripped on (set myself up being 16 i guess though. :D )im maken a stop at one of the local performance stores to see whats up, thinkin a spoiler would be nice 2 keep me happy 4 a while. I'll keep u all informed. If any more suggestions from anyone, leme know.
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11-19-2003, 08:40 PM
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Whatever, I dont care what you get for grades. I graduated from one of the best private high schools in the nation, and currently am enrolled in Boston College. It took alot more than an A- average and a mediocre ACT score to get in, so get a crackin'. Im sorry for the poor linguistics on my end, but Im SURE Ill see you out here soon enough. Dont waste money on a spoiler, you arent going fast enough to need the downforce. My best friend is a mechanical engineer, so let me know when you really want to make the 8 fast. Enough of this bickering. Listen to people like Rotarygod and such, they know more about the inner workings of the Renesis more than I do, but if you want to make it rediculously quick, do an engine swap to a 20b tripple rotor...then you can own any single WRX, Stang, Evo, whatever. keep your mind on what matters. sorry, i hate spoilers.
11-20-2003, 10:59 AM
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Aight! so... lets just have sum posts on N2O, Turbo's, and such now......
I wouldnt get the Spoiler for the actual effect.... more the look (the MS one i really like!)
I wouldnt get the Spoiler for the actual effect.... more the look (the MS one i really like!)
11-20-2003, 11:54 AM
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check out canzoomers spot on the vendor forum. he has a cpu piggyback that will give a 25hp increase by fixing the bunk fuel maps mazda put on the 8. This kit is only $500 and your car will still pass emmisions AND get better gas milage.
Oh, and if you dont care about passing emmisions canzoomer is making another fuel map for non-street legal racers that will give 50-70hp
Read up on this....he is shipping his first batches soon so you may not need to wait for a turbo or any FI for a good hp increase.
Oh, and if you dont care about passing emmisions canzoomer is making another fuel map for non-street legal racers that will give 50-70hp
Read up on this....he is shipping his first batches soon so you may not need to wait for a turbo or any FI for a good hp increase.
11-20-2003, 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Floyd
check out canzoomers spot on the vendor forum. he has a cpu piggyback that will give a 25hp increase by fixing the bunk fuel maps mazda put on the 8. This kit is only $500 and your car will still pass emmisions AND get better gas milage.
Oh, and if you dont care about passing emmisions canzoomer is making another fuel map for non-street legal racers that will give 50-70hp
Read up on this....he is shipping his first batches soon so you may not need to wait for a turbo or any FI for a good hp increase.
check out canzoomers spot on the vendor forum. he has a cpu piggyback that will give a 25hp increase by fixing the bunk fuel maps mazda put on the 8. This kit is only $500 and your car will still pass emmisions AND get better gas milage.
Oh, and if you dont care about passing emmisions canzoomer is making another fuel map for non-street legal racers that will give 50-70hp
Read up on this....he is shipping his first batches soon so you may not need to wait for a turbo or any FI for a good hp increase.
11-20-2003, 03:53 PM
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A good basic guide to stages of performance mods for the '8 is developing in this thread: https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...threadid=14703
11-20-2003, 08:07 PM
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Dude, just wait till next year, by march im sure there will be enough mods on the market to make a educated choice. I think that a few months is worth the wait when your talking about one SWEET car, and personally, no NOS.
11-24-2003, 01:12 PM
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Omi.....
nope not yet...in R&D....Stillen I believe is the only one so far with a production FI kit for 350....and of course..mega $$$BLING$$$
and hood mods...
now back to the 8....
nope not yet...in R&D....Stillen I believe is the only one so far with a production FI kit for 350....and of course..mega $$$BLING$$$
and hood mods...
now back to the 8....
11-25-2003, 10:10 PM
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I say use nitrous if you have a qualified person set it up for you and install it. Nitrous is a great choice, but many uneducated have misconecptions of its usage. The majority of people have a concept of 'blowing up your engine' when using nitrous. A typical result for incorrect nitrous application, but however I suggest getting another car if you want to beat everyone in your school or whatever. Subaru WRX STi or Mitsubishi Evolution VIII. They will rock them all, I guarantee it, with a 6-speed RX-8 (is that what you have?) I could barely beat a turbocharged WRX with a few upgrades on the street we were like neck and neck until the end when the high rpms of the rotary helped. I beat him even though I didnt know we were racing until like 1 sec after I started after the signal light. I also raced a S2000 and the driver mis-shifted, it was funny, but it caused me to run a red light in a highly public trafficed area and I didnt hurt anyone, but I could of... thats what worries me most.
I am 19 and have pretty much all import enthusiast friends always encourage me to race people and ****, but when you really think about it and hear horror stories of young adults like you and I dying and burning alive due to street racing, it takes to heart. I have personally seen 1 of my friends crash going 90mph on the freeway racing another car and off the side of the road and spinning and **** and it was a horrific site. My other friend recently was doing something stupid like showing off and ended up crashing into a tree and **** trying to enter a shopping complex at an excess of speed. So before you give into peer pressure and the suggestions of racing this guy or maxing out your car's speed, THINK. Sure it would be awesome to max my car out on the way to vegas, but with 3 of my best friends in there, its not a risk I would be willing to take cuz it could kill us all if something went wrong - now how would that reflect on you? I personally think it shows more *****, integrity, and self-control to resist these temptations. Just be responsible, just a suggestion, cuz I used to be all into that street race your *** in high school syndrome and telling my friend that I will beat him shooting nitrous in my 2001 Celica GT automatic compared to his 5.0 Mustang GT... I personally know what you are going through, but there is plenty of times where I look back and say, damn I was stupid... keep it real dude and be responsible. Some famous person said "With great power comes great responsibility."
I am 19 and have pretty much all import enthusiast friends always encourage me to race people and ****, but when you really think about it and hear horror stories of young adults like you and I dying and burning alive due to street racing, it takes to heart. I have personally seen 1 of my friends crash going 90mph on the freeway racing another car and off the side of the road and spinning and **** and it was a horrific site. My other friend recently was doing something stupid like showing off and ended up crashing into a tree and **** trying to enter a shopping complex at an excess of speed. So before you give into peer pressure and the suggestions of racing this guy or maxing out your car's speed, THINK. Sure it would be awesome to max my car out on the way to vegas, but with 3 of my best friends in there, its not a risk I would be willing to take cuz it could kill us all if something went wrong - now how would that reflect on you? I personally think it shows more *****, integrity, and self-control to resist these temptations. Just be responsible, just a suggestion, cuz I used to be all into that street race your *** in high school syndrome and telling my friend that I will beat him shooting nitrous in my 2001 Celica GT automatic compared to his 5.0 Mustang GT... I personally know what you are going through, but there is plenty of times where I look back and say, damn I was stupid... keep it real dude and be responsible. Some famous person said "With great power comes great responsibility."
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11-27-2003, 01:14 AM
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Efini 8 - You seen spiderman too much hahaha
but im not looked to rid the car man, just looken to put a lil more speed on it.
Upgrade/Mod posts now only PLZ!
but im not looked to rid the car man, just looken to put a lil more speed on it.
Upgrade/Mod posts now only PLZ!
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New to the site and been reading about how the turbo is not out yet. But my friend told me asked one of the shops he knows for upgrades for my RX and they said it was out.