Jon

Thanks for the support Fanman. And yes we did fall off the radar, we are just very busy here with other cars and haven't really had time to focus on our turbo kits and many other projects we have going at the moment.

but the kits are available and ready to be sold, we have them selling as Tuner Kits and engine managements are sold separately for those of you who want to tune their own car.

I don't know where you are getting your information from Carnary but I would be happy to help shed some light on whatever car or person you are referencing. And just to be clear there is another shop in Austin that uses the name protech that has gotten us VERY BAD publicity on quite a few forums in the past so it wouldn't really surprise me if this was the case once again.

Obviously we do not have quite as bad a reputation as Carnary is implying or we wouldn't still be in business? We have been here since 1997, we are the oldest performance shop in Austin. And i don't want anyone to think I'm saying we have never pissed anyone off, because thats definately not true but we try to please all our customers as best we can. We still have many of the same customers from 1997 still coming to us for all their work so we must not be that bad :P

and no one else has our turbo kit installed on an rx8, so no one on this forum could have blown up their car with our kit.

Rotaryspeed18

Fanman: I know of at least one person in my town with the greddy kit. he said there service was ok but the kit wasn't that good. not the turbo or individual parts, but a couple of month after he got it tunned, the turbo started surging at idle and the was in boost when he started from a light. not all the time but every now and then. I know that has been a problem that i have read about the kit. He fixed everything that was going on. car runs great now. As for my experience Greddy just seemed as if they didn't care about my call. to me thats bad customer service, not sure if the person i called was having a bad day, but that was enough to keep me from buying there kit.

MazdaManiac

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Just as a point of reference - GReddy does not offer support to the end customer. That is plainly outlined in their instruction materials.
They require that you go through an authorized distributor/reseller.

The fact that some people have had some success contacting them directly does not change this.

lazi

jon @ ptp

Highway8

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I just want to say that if you are serious about making a purchase of a turbo kit and have any questions about the PTP kit, give Jon a call 512-834-8771. I sent him an e-mail last week with some questions and he went out of his way to call me and give me the answers to all my questions and more. He sent me the dyno charts and they look great. 12 PSI, pump gas with water injection makes 346HP and 296 FT LBS of torque with the HP and Trq crossing at 5250 RPM 275/275. The 10PSI run did 331/254 crossing at 5250RPM making 250/250. Also, the car and driver test were done on a moderate set up of about 315 HP. They have been busy but are looking at getting 400HP real soon. I think he said they have gotten 380 with no problems. he said the stock fuel pump has been keeping the pressures steady and no failures. If you like the front/top mount turbo, this kit looks good.

Rotaryspeed18

Highway, can you post the Dyno charts. would really like to see them.

dannobre

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considering the number of NA pumps failing....I wouldn't run the stock pump for anything......especially on the track..

Fanman

That's the problem, there is a disconnect with Greddy & their authorized dealers. When I got the kit the intake pipe was missing. I contacted them & they told me to go to my authorized dealer, which I did. Needless to say they were not too happy to help. Most "authorized" dealers just want to sell product. They tried to order the missing part for me & Greddy was pretty much clueless or just completely lacksidasical on their service to their authorized dealer. Basically blew him off even after several phone calls & emails on my behalf. Got so frustrated that just had my mechanic fab me up a part (steel pipe). Second time I was working with SP Engineering, one of the top 3 largest Greddy dealers in the country, and they had found that the wastegate spring on my turbo was defective. Greddy gave them the run around & blew them off. This was a top Greddy dealer ! Got to a point I just told them to buy the part & I would pay for it. But Greddy was so incompetent that one rep. said they were backordered on the part, but after 3 months we talked to another more experienced rep. and he told us that part was in stock, and had been in stock for months. Needless to say it pissed off both myself & the owner of SP Engineering.

The only way you would get me to buy Greddy again is to hack off my arm. Same amount of pain as dealing with these guys.

MazdaManiac

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^^ I can see how that would suck.
I guess it just depends on whose ear you have.


What, exactly, is the "number" of failing pumps? I've heard of two or three here.
In talking to the few dealer folks I know, I haven't had confirmation of any failures here in Phoenix.
Contrast that to the number of motor failures and the representative sample of that here on this forum and I'd have to conclude that pump failures are quite a rare occurrence overall.

rotorocks

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Dude, you got me hooked on your avatars.
One of the reasons I keep coming back to this site is to see what are the sexy lesbians are going to do now.

tdiddy

PTP = redemptive vaporware?
Are you still running the stock fuel pump?

Jon

we are still running the stock fuel pump :p and it held up to the beating car & driver put it through fairly well i would say

tdiddy

^Have you considered getting a car to SSX? It would really allow people to get acquainted with your kit.

Jon

we probably wont make it to SSX but there should be 1-2 cars there with our turbo kit on them so you guys can check it out.

MazdaManiac

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Horrible mistake on your part unless you don't want to sell more kits.
Car's with your kit installed will hardly get noticed.

Yes.

Jedi54

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those cars will get overlooked if you don't have a booth.

pdxhak

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Jon,

Are you saying no one has purchased and installed your kit or no on on this site has?

canaryrx8

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I certainly hope this is the case, but I do know of one person who has an FD that was completely butchered, told the woman who owned it she would need a new motor, pulled all this shady crap on her, lost some of the parts to her car or something, charged her thousands of dollars and her car left the shop on a tow truck to one of the dealerships here in town eventually as it never got fixed/upgraded/whatever. Maybe that was the other shop, maybe not, I've heard a lot of negative stuff regarding business practices and such, people paying for items, items not showing up or taking forever etc., similar to what's going on with J-on-Demand where it seems like they're robbing peter to pay paul etc. Could very well be the other shop that's causing problems, but if it is, perhaps you may consider changing your name, suing them or something? I'd hate to think all the grief I'm hearing is from you guys, I've met ya'll before when you came out to one of the TexasRxs meetings forever ago, you seem like decent folks but man is there a lot of dirt slinging going on about you or the other place, whichever it is.

That could very well be the case, but it could also be that people don't know anything about your shop and since you're one of only 2-3 here in town that tinker with imports it could be that they keep you in business and spend $$ and then it's too late etc. (I've made that mistake myself at places like *cough* custom sounds *cough*)
I'm not trying to be an ******* or start trouble or even imply anything really, I'm just trying to protect people here from spending 8 grand at a place that may not come through for them. If it really is the other shop, that has to suck for you guys as ALL the folks I know (club members and a large number other people outside the club) don't even know about the other shop so they're assuming all the negativity is coming from your place.
To be honest, I didn't even know there was another protech, I think there is a place called "protek" on ben white or something maybe? I don't even know if they're still in business thouugh My best friends run a small stereo shop, I know how hard it is to keep people happy, I sincerely hope you're right and I'm wrong and that the other shop is the cause of all the mess I'm hearing and have been hearing for quite some time now. I'm not diverting this thread anymore, ultimately it is up to the consumer, if it really is you than it will catch up to you anyway regardless of what I or anyone thinks, has to say, or posts on any random forum out there.

Jon

we only have 2 female FD owners, so I must assume that this was a black automatic owners name i think is Michelle. It did come into us the last time about a yr ago maybe longer with a blown motor, we checked the car out and quoted her a price to repair and she said she was just going to trade it in and not fix it. She paid 100 dollar checkup fee and towed it from here to a dealership to my knowledge. If this is the same person then you must have heard a greatly exagerated story. I hope that clears things up a bit if that is the person you are refering to, did you speak directly to the owner of the car michelle? or to someone else?


and no one has purchased our turbo kit so no one could have had it on their car. have a few people who say are they going to purchase soon but we will see soon enuf.

canaryrx8

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Actually I believe her name was Michelle, she showed us pictures and then was saying that she got ripped off blah blah blah but then was never heard from again nor did she show up to any other meetings. The only reason she showed up that night was to try and get some help with that car I guess. Sounds like it was indeed greatly exaggerated, she also showed us a receipt from a Midas shop here in town that charged her like almost a grand for replacing her cat. conv. on that car, but even that seemed a little sketchy looking back on it. Most places would probably charge 50-100 bucks so I don't see a problem with that at all, thanks for responding and the pm's, glad we could get things straightened out and I apologize for the misunderstanding to you publicly and anyone reading this who may have gotten the wrong impression from reading my posts.

Rotaryspeed18

So Jon, could you send me a pm or post with dyno charts for your kit?

Want to see what the hp and trq curves look like.

thanks.

h1 1m 1ogan

Hey guys I had a question about the reliability of these kits... This may be a stupid question but I was just curious about the short/long term effects on a daily driven 8 with one of these higher end kits. I have also been looking into both the mazsport and ptp kits and now am leaning more towards the mazsport, but i wanted to know what it would do to my engine life and how my car would perform on a everyday basis. Are there any additional mods that should be done to possibly the drivetrain or other areas of the car to keep it in better performin condition? How does the car run at lower rpm's - bogging and what not? Just curious before I actually invest into one of these kits because I am young and only have one car and do not want to destroy it too badley :D

Nopstnz

I wouldn't do it. I'm in the same position as you. Its my DD and only car. You don't wanna invest nearly 10k, possibly more, in something at your age. You run the risk of screwing something up, tuning or whatever, and blowing your engine, as does anyone of any age. But as you are young you are also inexperienced. But if you have a spare 12-14k laying around for the total cost of the turbo and a little extra dough for a new engine if needed, then go for it!

mysql101

Unless you're in boost, it will function and last pretty much on par as a non modified car.


If you break your transmission, you might want to replace it with a beefier version, otherwise if it's functional, why bother? Unless these kits start making over 400 whp, you should be okay (assuming you're not beating the **** out of it).



As long as you're not in boost, you will be just like stock.

It sounds like you have never seen a turbo car in action - I like to point out the second half of this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=vTFWJiHOGv0

The gauge on the left is boost. At 9 o'clock, the pressure is zero. Below that the car is in vacuum. Above that and the turbo is pushing air and creating boost. As you can see, you don't build boost unless you want to. So the car is normal till you start stomping on the peddle.


There's always risk, even if everything you buy aftermarket is installed and works 100%, your engine might break just because it's a mechanical device that was hand assembled.

As long as you have the cash to back it up, and can deal with worse case scenarios, FI on the rx-8 kicks much ***. I would definitely recommend it.

Rotaryspeed18

I agree 100% with mysql101, maintain the car and everything will be ok. I you want to take extra precautions then buil the rest of the car first before you do FI (i.e. Cryo treated gears, stronger clutch, better radiator and so on)

Point is the car will do what you tell it to with your right foot. car will run just like stock when not in boost so longevity of the engine will be the same, (assuming you had it tunned right) good tuning goes a long way.

It doesn't harm anything to have the money to back up a disaster just in case, but if that day never comes then you have a nice start on retirement.