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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by olddragger
17 hp from exhaust system? But that is with a race/high flow cat --right? Plausible!
Curious with what you have done with the center port--can you give us another picture showing the header ports? if not then I understand--have to guard development secrets.
Important step toward that hp goal of yours and i am following closely. If that goal is obtained (and I am optimistically cautious) then i will not need to go FI.
header looks good for prototype. Are there air holes for the air pump present?
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Yes it's a Ferrita made short race cat. The center ports of the header is more like stock, but with little modification. If i remember right the biggest length difference is 4" of the rear and middle tube but only 1" of the front and rear tubes. No there are no holes in header for air pump, but will be with final product. If now only PeterG could inhibate his vacation "lol".

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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by peterisurhero
oooooooo okay. sounds good man. as long as it really works. im first in line!!!
I will have to wait until late August to dyno test the "new header, though PeterG is beginning to do a jig and meticously build first stainless prototype with what i hope all primaries within 1/2" length difference.

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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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looking good man--looking good.
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Old Jul 1, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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LOL!!!

The exhaust ports themselves are much smaller in area than the exhaust runners are which is why I think 2.5" is fine if done properly. If you go purely off of runner area, a 3" is about right. Unfortunately Mazda can't seem to get port area and runner area matched up very well. Even if a 2.5" makes slightly less top end power, I'll bet it makes more average power everywhere else. Someone go test that statement and report back.
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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hey lasse, i'll be your guinea pig with the header hAHAHA
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
LOL!!!

The exhaust ports themselves are much smaller in area than the exhaust runners are which is why I think 2.5" is fine if done properly. If you go purely off of runner area, a 3" is about right. Unfortunately Mazda can't seem to get port area and runner area matched up very well. Even if a 2.5" makes slightly less top end power, I'll bet it makes more average power everywhere else. Someone go test that statement and report back.


Lets ask Lasse since he seems to have all the needed equiptment?

Have you tested out a 3" exhaust as well as the 2.5" that you are currently using? What about a 2.75"?
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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I can say that i have not tested any 2.75" or 3" on my N/A RX-8. But it can be easily done i just have to ask Ferrita and they will make a bigger bore exhaust. Maybe i'm gonna test the 2.5" and a 3" prototype on Lennarts RX-8 race car on my RotoTest dyno? Lennarts RX-8 has a Procharger kit from DNA on his stock block Renesis engine that is pumping out 326 hp at rear wheels on a DynoDynamics hub dyno. Should be interesting to see the results!

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Old Jul 3, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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Is this being sold as a full exhaust system? Price estimate yet?
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:04 AM
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After 1.5 months any updates Lasse?

Cheers

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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This looks promising for all us normally aspirated guys. Is that a big dent I see in the front runner? I'm more curious about dropping weight. Any target weight reduction numbers verses stock weight?

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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Well one thing i can say for sure is that i am still waiting for Peter G to get his hands dirty on manufacturing the headers! I talk to him last Monday and then he said he should "only" do some Ford Cosworth turbo headers. This means that hopefully he can start with my headers late next week. I am not gonna comment or write anything more about the header before he makes the first one!Then i will post some pictures. About the weight i think it will be around 2 lbs lighter than stock.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Oh, this sort of header thing could be beneficial to Remote turbo setups like mine
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Headers may not be of any benefit to N/A apps but definitely to F/I or nitrous apps. I already have a p.m. out to Lasse about a 3"-collector version.
A small weight reduction fro me until RP gets his thingamabob completed for my conversion from N/A to F/I.

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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I wonder what this type of header does for the exhaust note? I really do not want a raspy sound. I want a deeper sound.
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Old Aug 15, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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^ Yes I know, but that post confused me because it says (no header) when he did the dba test. ??

Originally Posted by Lasse wankel
Yes there is a little deeper throatier tone not much but it's there! I think when i measure the sound with a db meter 20 inch 45degree backwards the exhaust it was like 82-83dbA. That was with only the complete exhaustsystem (no header)
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 10:57 AM
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I'm the only one interested it seems, so send me one for Christmas please
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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Any problems with tuning?
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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dyno late august????
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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for the 1 billionth time, a multi-tube header is worthless on a zero-overlap timing Renesis
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Old Dec 21, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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english please
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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I'm more interested in weight savings and sound changes
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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by rotarygod
LOL!!!

The exhaust ports themselves are much smaller in area than the exhaust runners are which is why I think 2.5" is fine if done properly. If you go purely off of runner area, a 3" is about right. Unfortunately Mazda can't seem to get port area and runner area matched up very well. Even if a 2.5" makes slightly less top end power, I'll bet it makes more average power everywhere else. Someone go test that statement and report back.
Newbie here, hi all.

Slight thread hijack here but hey!
Just flicking through the exhaust threads for some tips on making up our exhaust system to mate to our own headers, and picked up on this, nice to see someone confirmed my calculations, I was getting a bit worried I'd gone too small seeing all the big bore systems on here!
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Old Dec 27, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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is this header still in the works
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