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Old 08-06-2009, 03:30 PM
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you gotta pay to play.
the thing I admire most about Phil's car is his never ending persuit of perfection. He's been continually upgrading that Pettit Kit to suit his needs and he's spared no expense in doing so.

Amazing car.
Trust me, I've driven it.
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i want to drive it now..lol
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holy stickshift! $10,000 I wish I could do something like that! But I've been reading alot about AT turbo 8's and I think I'm gonna do that, but I wanna know I have a 4 port engine and most turbo AT have 6 is this still possible for me??
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you can turbo a 4port.
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
^^^ Phil is upwards of $10,000 on his current build.
Hell if it was only that little .................Best I not talk about it as my wife may read this thread - If you gotta ask then you cant' afford it. The engine is almost done (until we can figure another way to stuff more air and more fuel into it)- now I get to do the rest of it.
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I low balled you on the figure so as to not scare away everyone.
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wow that is too much for me and i would be to scared to do all that to my car i would blow it up lol mad props to you phil.
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
I low balled you on the figure so as to not scare away everyone.
No one has to do what I am doing - you can get close with out breaking the bank. Most would be happier having a turbo and a turbo four port is a whole new experience. You can find that missing 40hp after installing one.

I just wish that a/t 4 port owners would quit crying and start doing - maybe they will find something I have not yet found. Got to be a genius out there somewhere.
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Yikes guys, why would you buy this car as an auto? I don't get it.
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Hay phil I agree with u I love my AT and I never complain about it. I'm just so ready to work on it but I'm still learning so much about it. But I guess it's just one day at a time. And I'm even more excited to hear that u can put turbo on a 4 port so it's time to make some purchases now :-)
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Originally Posted by RufusVonStorm
Yikes guys, why would you buy this car as an auto? I don't get it.
1. some people just prefer Autos.
2. live in a high traffic area and don't want to spend their entire commute shifting in and out of 1st.
3. didn't do their homework and thought the A/T and M/T had same power outputs.
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Originally Posted by Jedi54
1. some people just prefer Autos.
2. live in a high traffic area and don't want to spend their entire commute shifting in and out of 1st.
3. didn't do their homework and thought the A/T and M/T had same power outputs.
^#2 is why i got an auto, NYC streets so unpredictable
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. And I'm even more excited to hear that u can put turbo on a 4 port so it's time to make some purchases now :-)
here would be a good place to start. https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-major-horsepower-upgrades-93/09factors-automatic-greddy-install-build-out-164257/
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bs. i daily drive this car (mt) in nyc, no big deal!

why is it that everyone uses that as an excuse?
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Originally Posted by rx8phase1
the tranmsission on the auto cant take 9,000 rpm w/out damaging it so pretty much it's the ecu we can only go to 7,500 rpm instead of 9 and thats where the rotary engine really wakes up.
Originally Posted by rx8phase1
yup thats where it comes from the rotary is kinda like v-tec in civics u feel the power kick in around 4,000 rpm.
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i read somewhere that some of the fastest cars w turbo are automatics.
Do you just make this stuff up?

Edit: Phil Answered already.

Also the reason is not just RPM but because it only has 4 ports instead of 6 and can't take in as much air as the MTs.

The fastest 8's out there are 8's with 20Bs in them. But the MT turbos are much faster than the AT turbos. Not trying to flame AT owners. Just trying to set the record straight and stop the spread of mis-information.

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Originally Posted by alz0rz
bs. i daily drive this car (mt) in nyc, no big deal!

why is it that everyone uses that as an excuse?
well lets see, ive been in 2 accidents in a manual in the ny the frst time i hit a pot whole that riped the bumper to shreads the second time my friend was driving and hit one which made him lose control of the car.
but thats just my experience not an excuse.
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Ok. First of all Phil, I'm not ashamed of my 8 at all. I love my car with everything I have and I certainly don't own the car to race it. I think my car is gorgeous and I've spent thousands visually modding it. It was just disappointing after finding out that it wasn't just an ECU restriction holding me back from that 40hp. THAT was where i didn't do my homework, and I can take responsibility for that.

However, I do want to performance upgrades to my car, and who knows maybe a turbo somewhere down the road. That would be amazing. I know next on my list is a midpipe and an intake. I know there's no way I could afford what you do to your car, and I give you props for that. Your 8 is one of a kind and I envy it, haha. I'm jealous you get to drive that.

And lastly, I have an AT because i'm 18, my parents had a say in me owning this car, even though I pay for most of it. It's my daily driver and I'm still sketchy at driving MT. I'm sure my next car will be MT, but I AM happy with my AT, an MT would be amazing because of the power. But I love my car and give it plenty of TLC.
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AT owners need to stop their bellyaching. I along with a selected handful of rx8 owners, some who have stepped in this thread are actually doing something about it. Not so much because of a power hunger to become a corvette killer, but rather to enhance the pure joy of driving this magnificent car.....In fact my project is about to take off. I even bought a $500 beater (1990 civic si) to be able to use while modding the 8. My AT already has an AEM intake, BHR coils, weld on Magnaflow exhaust and COBB Accessport(kinda)

Things to come,
-BHR midpipe, already purchased: install as soon as it arrives.
-Zex nitrous kit, already purchased: install 3-4 months--need to purchase BHR spacer+ remote bottle opener+guage+blowdown tube(already got bottle heater)
- more accessport tuning
-Lowering spring install (1-2 months)
-new undertray asap
- Exhaust header??? maybe if i do,3-4 months
- lighter wheels+ tires 4-5 months...not really a priority

I wish I could go turbo or SC but it would be far from convenient and affordable, so I will use the laughing gas for my temporary adrenaline fix. if anything ill just get the maximizer kit and lug around 2 purple bottles.
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/\ you forgot to add :

-spare intake manifold LOL
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Originally Posted by Brettus
/\ you forgot to add :

-spare intake manifold LOL
maybe I can get a discount on a dozen
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Do you just make this stuff up?

Edit: Phil Answered already.

Also the reason is not just RPM but because it only has 4 ports instead of 6 and can't take in as much air as the MTs.

The fastest 8's out there are 8's with 20Bs in them. But the MT turbos are much faster than the AT turbos. Not trying to flame AT owners. Just trying to set the record straight and stop the spread of mis-information.
At this time 6 port tuboed A/ts and 6 port tuboed M/ts still do have a speed difference. I can think of a few mods that would even out that difference. Now just because I said that some one will pop up and tell me how wrong I am and they have solved the difference.

Originally Posted by ZachLegend
Ok. First of all Phil, I'm not ashamed of my 8 at all. I love my car with everything I have and I certainly don't own the car to race it. I think my car is gorgeous and I've spent thousands visually modding it. It was just disappointing after finding out that it wasn't just an ECU restriction holding me back from that 40hp. THAT was where i didn't do my homework, and I can take responsibility for that.

However, I do want to performance upgrades to my car, and who knows maybe a turbo somewhere down the road. That would be amazing. I know next on my list is a midpipe and an intake. I know there's no way I could afford what you do to your car, and I give you props for that. Your 8 is one of a kind and I envy it, haha. I'm jealous you get to drive that.

And lastly, I have an AT because i'm 18, my parents had a say in me owning this car, even though I pay for most of it. It's my daily driver and I'm still sketchy at driving MT. I'm sure my next car will be MT, but I AM happy with my AT, an MT would be amazing because of the power. But I love my car and give it plenty of TLC.
Your choice of words lead me to believe that you were ashamed of it. Glad to see that you are pleased with it. You know the reason I purchased this car was it's looks, and it's cornering ability. If I had wanted speed I would have just purchased a Shelby.

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AT owners need to stop their bellyaching. I along with a selected handful of rx8 owners, some who have stepped in this thread are actually doing something about it. Not so much because of a power hunger to become a corvette killer, but rather to enhance the pure joy of driving this magnificent car.....In fact my project is about to take off. I even bought a $500 beater (1990 civic si) to be able to use while modding the 8. My AT already has an AEM intake, BHR coils, weld on Magnaflow exhaust and COBB Accessport(kinda)

Things to come,
-BHR midpipe, already purchased: install as soon as it arrives.
-Zex nitrous kit, already purchased: install 3-4 months--need to purchase BHR spacer+ remote bottle opener+guage+blowdown tube(already got bottle heater)
- more accessport tuning
-Lowering spring install (1-2 months)
-new undertray asap
- Exhaust header??? maybe if i do,3-4 months
- lighter wheels+ tires 4-5 months...not really a priority

I wish I could go turbo or SC but it would be far from convenient and affordable, so I will use the laughing gas for my temporary adrenaline fix. if anything ill just get the maximizer kit and lug around 2 purple bottles.
You have it, a quick relatively inexpensive way to gain speed is Nitrous. If you do choose it, the first rule is stay away from Easy_E1 and his posts on Nitrous. If you don't you'll be investing in the same manifold factory that he presently is . There are so many different mods that are available that something out there should tickle your fancy and help with your desire to improve the performance of your 8
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I just wish that a/t 4 port owners would quit crying and start doing - maybe they will find something I have not yet found. Got to be a genius out there somewhere.
Word......

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AT owners need to stop their bellyaching. I along with a selected handful of rx8 owners, some who have stepped in this thread are actually doing something about it. Not so much because of a power hunger to become a corvette killer, but rather to enhance the pure joy of driving this magnificent car.....
Word +1
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im not ashamed of my auto 8 either ... one coz i have a 6sp 2010 camaro for when i want POWER but i swear i hardly use all that power and the 8 is sexy as hell ... plus i have too many tickets on my license so the slower i go the better and the 8 is my daily ... i would have gotten a mt but i was in a horrible crash before i got my 8 and i was hell bent on gettin the 8 but could by no means operate a clutch for at least another 8 months soo the at it was and i still love it ...
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Originally Posted by rx8phase1
yup thats where it comes from the rotary is kinda like v-tec in civics u feel the power kick in around 4,000 rpm.
Yup, our cars have VTEC


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