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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
well, I personally likes a 1 piece design more than multi-piece like the Fidanza that I'm using. if they still have it by next week I might grab one and keep it as backup
there are plenty of 1-pc units of equal or better quality out there, n00bs gotta n00b ... ....
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 07:51 PM
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What are the advantages/disadvantages of a multi piece flywheel anyway?
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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aluminum flywheel with replaceable steel wear surface; never have to refinish or replace it, just the wear surface

theoretically has a lower MOI than a full steel 1-pc even though the static total weight may be identical

example: http://www.racingbeat.com/RX8/Flywhe...ml?id=oFWZQtih



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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
there are plenty of 1-pc units of equal or better quality out there, n00bs gotta n00b ... ....
come on now u seriously think I did not know there are other 1 pc flywheel out there? hello I mean this thread is called flywheels, and it has a list of flywheels (somewhat dated)

as the matter of fact I have another Flywheel that's 1 piece and it's collecting dust in my garage. which I'm gonna sell it back out soon. Mazdaspeed fw not gonna give me another 50hp, but hey I like it. SO WHAT!

you stinky n00b!

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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 12:49 AM
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You some sort of flywheel horder mate? Lol

Thanks Team for the explanation, learnt something today
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 01:08 AM
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which flywheel do you have sitting around? I'm looking for a prolite or fidanza. My throwout bearing is starting to give a whirring sound so I'm going to be doing some work soon.
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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TeamRX8: I was thinking of going with the Racing Beat one, until I decided I'd rather just stick with Mazda OEM as I still have a warranty on my drive-train for a while, and the fact that they are more likely to consider drivability into the design. I'm well aware of the other products on the market, my educated choice doesn't make me (or others here) noobs
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 08:13 AM
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Just for my own information, how often would one realistically be resurfacing a flywheel?
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by paimon.soror
Just for my own information, how often would one realistically be resurfacing a flywheel?
if it's same clutch/fw, no need to do anything, so in the other words, do it only if u're gonna use a new clutch (cuz ur old clutch worn out and it's slipping)

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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 08:27 AM
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makes sense. thanks.
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by yomomspimp06
which flywheel do you have sitting around? I'm looking for a prolite or fidanza. My throwout bearing is starting to give a whirring sound so I'm going to be doing some work soon.
I have a set of Streetlite and the Clutch set. Gonna post it in FS section soon.
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 09:15 AM
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So you spent 2x $$$ to get a flywheel that is barely any lighter than the OE part with negligble performance gain? Plus the hassle and cost of installing it, and for what???

There's nothing educated about that. Same for the warranty comment. Calling you a n00b was nicer than pointing out the obvious.


Doing nothing at all is infinitely wiser. Cancel the order if it's not too late.





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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
So you spent 2x $$$ to get a flywheel that is barely any lighter than the OE part with negligble performance gain? Plus the hassle and cost of installing it, and for what???

There's nothing educated about that. Same for the warranty comment. Calling you a n00b was nicer than pointing out the obvious.


Doing nothing at all is infinitely wiser. Cancel the order if it's not too late.


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people spent thousands to try to get just maybe 10-20 hp outa of a NA Rx8, it's probably cheaper for them to just sell the car and get a i4 turbo that has more power in the first place. hell just sell the 8 and get a FD would have more power and as good if not better handling.

so should I call those rx8 owners a noob then?

mind u the MS FW set comes with CW, that's why it cost more. so it's not the FW that's double the price. I think u forgot that CW actually cost money, get any FW out there + the price of the CW it's just about the same. there are lighter /better options of course, but hey, if the guy wants it, it's their money, their choice.

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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 07:31 PM
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You usually call them much worse than that, did you have some frontal brain lobe surgery or something ...

You can use $100 bills for toilet paper if you want, i can still roll my eyes and laugh at you too

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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 07:00 AM
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I'm surprised you didn't give me the full price choir preaching tour that explains how its not just about static weight

https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-aft...u-think-82938/
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
You usually call them much worse than that, did you have some frontal brain lobe surgery or something ...

You can use $100 bills for toilet paper if you want, i can still roll my eyes and laugh at you too

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Maybe :rollseye:

Wellm mazdaspeed fw isnt all that bad, not everyone wants/needs the best and the lightest fw
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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If it cost less than another flywheel with the same weight/quality/etc. features there wouldn't be any argument. So hey babe, take a walk on the stupid side .... and all the tards go "Doo do doo do doo do do doo ..."
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
If it cost less than another flywheel with the same weight/quality/etc. features there wouldn't be any argument. So hey babe, take a walk on the stupid side .... and all the tards go "Doo do doo do doo do do doo ..."
Dude, ease up, you're acting like I'm offending you for buying a perfectly fine product. People make buying choices based on different reasons. Yours are different than mine, and so we gravitate do different flywheels for different reasons.

I'm only installing this because my clutch needs to be replaced, and I want a liiiiitle weight reduction to change the dynamics. I want to maintain a Mazda OEM spec to ensure no warrantee hassles, and these items are worth the LITTLE extra I paid for it. The cost is averages across the entire lifespan of the product - which is long - the difference is negligible when weighted against MY priorities It's not a bad choice, just not yours.
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 05:06 PM
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erm. his comment wasn't directed at you
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 05:33 PM
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erm. his comment wasn't directed at you
That was only his latest mate - read back a bit...

TeamRX8:
"So you spent 2x $$$ to get a flywheel that is barely any lighter than the OE part with negligble performance gain? Plus the hassle and cost of installing it, and for what???

There's nothing educated about that. Same for the warranty comment. Calling you a n00b was nicer than pointing out the obvious.


Doing nothing at all is infinitely wiser. Cancel the order if it's not too late."
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 06:23 PM
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What is your flywheel set up team?
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Old Sep 28, 2013 | 11:39 PM
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gunna assume he is running an OE/OE Equivalent since he was running STX
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 08:57 AM
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You've taken me too literally/seriously yet again.

First, I could care less what you do with your car/money.

Second, you should care less about what I or anyone else thinks about it

Third, neither your intent or my opinion is a situation that arguing about is going to change. Yet ncygps is intent on arguing about it. I was not only happy to oblige him, but to also serve it in the same style he dishes it out on the forum. My comments aren't directed at anyone but him and I'm the complete opposite of being upset about anything. I can understand how you might have perceived it otherwise, but in all honesty I'm only joking around. You have to admit that the Lou Reed spin was pretty hilarious ...

Class rules dictated me using the stock flywheel and clutch, which will handle pretty much anything you can throw at it with an NA Renesis engine. I'm moving to a higher prep class next year and the clutch/flywheel is wide open. Current plan is a pure racing 4.5" mini-clutch which with mating flywheel and counterweight will total under 11bs for the entire assembly. I can't wait to rev it out for the first time ...
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
You've taken me too literally/seriously yet again.

First, I could care less what you do with your car/money.

Second, you should care less about what I or anyone else thinks about it

Third, neither your intent or my opinion is a situation that arguing about is going to change. Yet ncygps is intent on arguing about it. I was not only happy to oblige him, but to also serve it in the same style he dishes it out on the forum. My comments aren't directed at anyone but him and I'm the complete opposite of being upset about anything. I can understand how you might have perceived it otherwise, but in all honesty I'm only joking around. You have to admit that the Lou Reed spin was pretty hilarious ...

Class rules dictated me using the stock flywheel and clutch, which will handle pretty much anything you can throw at it with an NA Renesis engine. I'm moving to a higher prep class next year and the clutch/flywheel is wide open. Current plan is a pure racing 4.5" mini-clutch which with mating flywheel and counterweight will total under 11bs for the entire assembly. I can't wait to rev it out for the first time ...
You sure made it clear you did care, otherwise why post at all, you seem very intent on making your points. Playing both sides from the middle comes with forum territory - I get that. Fair enough though, all good man! Everyone has an opinion. You're enjoying your stock setup, and I'll find out how the ms flywheel spins personally. Moving along...
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Old Sep 29, 2013 | 12:58 PM
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Well i'd recommend the ACT Pro-lite instead, just for the benefit of the anti-n00bs

Also recommend an OE or OE Replacement clutch assembly for normally aspirated Renesis engines. DO NOT buy a Stage 1 etc. (including Mazdaspeed) unless you have converted to forced induction.

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