Car wont start after coil upgrade.........
12-11-2008, 06:40 PM
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put the mazsport coils back on! zomg, Scott was right this WHOLE time!!! 
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
Lets start over here:
what exactly does the car do? just cranks and no fire?
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
Lets start over here:
what exactly does the car do? just cranks and no fire?
12-11-2008, 06:52 PM
#57
ok maf and tps all plugged up
ignition is ok
2 things i can think off you can try
1- just fill the tips of the leading sparkplugs with gas--reinstall them and she if she tries to start
2- length of small plastic hose and a big old syringe --stick it up the fuel line to the engine and see if you suck anything out --probably not but remote possibility the engine vacuum sucked something out of the purge line?
all the injectors could not have gone bad at once.
when you 1st tried to crank it it did not fire correct?
OD
ignition is ok
2 things i can think off you can try
1- just fill the tips of the leading sparkplugs with gas--reinstall them and she if she tries to start
2- length of small plastic hose and a big old syringe --stick it up the fuel line to the engine and see if you suck anything out --probably not but remote possibility the engine vacuum sucked something out of the purge line?
all the injectors could not have gone bad at once.
when you 1st tried to crank it it did not fire correct?
OD
12-11-2008, 06:56 PM
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oh i remembered one more thing--try also pulling the fuel pump fuse and then crank the car--course it wont crank--but if there is blockage then the pressure would not be released and she would still spray on disconnect
be carefull around all this gas man.
OD
be carefull around all this gas man.
OD
12-11-2008, 06:57 PM
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ok maf and tps all plugged up
ignition is ok
2 things i can think off you can try
1- just fill the tips of the leading sparkplugs with gas--reinstall them and she if she tries to start
2- length of small plastic hose and a big old syringe --stick it up the fuel line to the engine and see if you suck anything out --probably not but remote possibility the engine vacuum sucked something out of the purge line?
all the injectors could not have gone bad at once.
OD
ignition is ok
2 things i can think off you can try
1- just fill the tips of the leading sparkplugs with gas--reinstall them and she if she tries to start
2- length of small plastic hose and a big old syringe --stick it up the fuel line to the engine and see if you suck anything out --probably not but remote possibility the engine vacuum sucked something out of the purge line?
all the injectors could not have gone bad at once.
OD
Correct.
12-11-2008, 06:59 PM
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Jedi is a fanboi??? WTH?? haha anyways are u sure not fuel lines are crushed/kinked past that connector?? if you are getting pressur there but can't get it the rest of the way through there has to b something with the line from the connector on! I also say check the plugs for spark and see how it is...
does it ever "try" to start or just crank crank crank...never a half *** start???
does it ever "try" to start or just crank crank crank...never a half *** start???
12-11-2008, 07:00 PM
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Any CEL"S? You did something that has things FUBARRED
Go back to square one and think about everything you did.....
If it has spark...then you need to figure what you did to screw up the fuel system...cause putting the connectors on backwards shouldn't do much...might cause a emissions leak...but other than a CEL it should still start.
Did you disconnect a ground by accident? or blow a fuse...those are the most likely things
Go back to square one and think about everything you did.....
If it has spark...then you need to figure what you did to screw up the fuel system...cause putting the connectors on backwards shouldn't do much...might cause a emissions leak...but other than a CEL it should still start.
Did you disconnect a ground by accident? or blow a fuse...those are the most likely things
12-11-2008, 07:01 PM
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Jedi is a fanboi??? WTH?? haha anyways are u sure not fuel lines are crushed/kinked past that connector?? if you are getting pressur there but can't get it the rest of the way through there has to b something with the line from the connector on! I also say check the plugs for spark and see how it is...
does it ever "try" to start or just crank crank crank...never a half *** start???
does it ever "try" to start or just crank crank crank...never a half *** start???
It does not try to start... not even a half start. Just crank crank crank
12-11-2008, 07:04 PM
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Any CEL"S? You did something that has things FUBARRED
Go back to square one and think about everything you did.....
If it has spark...then you need to figure what you did to screw up the fuel system...cause putting the connectors on backwards shouldn't do much...might cause a emissions leak...but other than a CEL it should still start.
Did you disconnect a ground by accident? or blow a fuse...those are the most likely things
Go back to square one and think about everything you did.....
If it has spark...then you need to figure what you did to screw up the fuel system...cause putting the connectors on backwards shouldn't do much...might cause a emissions leak...but other than a CEL it should still start.
Did you disconnect a ground by accident? or blow a fuse...those are the most likely things
I always disconnect the battery before i mess with anything. I did have to disconnect the ground to remove the mazsport coils wiring harness but I triple checked that connection and its solid.
I checked the fuel fuse and it's fine.
12-11-2008, 07:08 PM
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yeah i would say it has to b somwhere from that connector to the intake manifold on the fuel line..... that is if the spark is ok......maybe it is a combination of both no fuel/no spark.....
12-11-2008, 07:11 PM
#66
You will have high pressure in the fuel line when the pump has run...that is normal...you shouldn't have pressure in the evap line...undo that and let it drain...
then hook it back up.
That shouldn't cause you a problem.....I don't think that the evap will not let the car run..
If you have a code reader see if you have any codes..or pending ones
Doesn't make sense that it is anything to difficult unless you shorted out something and possibly fried your ECU. Do you have any funny dash lights?? Check and see if the security light is on...( lower right side of the left gauge cluster in the dash ) You may have erased you PATS codes in the module..although it usually won't crank if that is the case??
SOrry red your response after finishing this
then hook it back up.
That shouldn't cause you a problem.....I don't think that the evap will not let the car run..
If you have a code reader see if you have any codes..or pending ones
Doesn't make sense that it is anything to difficult unless you shorted out something and possibly fried your ECU. Do you have any funny dash lights?? Check and see if the security light is on...( lower right side of the left gauge cluster in the dash ) You may have erased you PATS codes in the module..although it usually won't crank if that is the case??
SOrry red your response after finishing this
12-11-2008, 07:34 PM
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from the manual...
No battery power supply to PCM
• Open PCM GND or vehicle body GND
• Air cleaner restriction
• Air leakage from intake-air system
•Vacuum leakage
• Improper operation of drive-by-wire control system
• Drive-by-wire control system operates in fail-safe mode (abnormal accelerator
position and TP signal to PCM)
Poor fuel quality
• Open or short circuit in fuel pump body and related wiring harness
• Inadequate fuel pressure
•Fuel pump relay malfunction (stuck open)
• Fuel pump mechanical malfunction
• Pressure regulator (integrated in fuel pump unit) malfunction
• Fuel injector malfunction (leakage, clogging, improper injection amount)
• Open or short in fuel injector control signal circuit
•\ Purge solenoid valve malfunction (stuck open)
• Restriction in exhaust system
•Disconnected electrical connector
•No signal from eccentric shaft position sensor, related wiring harness or incorrect
•
installation
Improper air/fuel ratio control at starting (abnormal ECT signal to PCM)
APP sensor malfunction (de-chock control operating due to abnormal accelerator
position signal to PCM)
Low engine compression
•
Engine internal malfunction
Abnormal engine oil condition (viscosity, deterioration)
Low oil pressure
Excessive fuel pressure
Air mixed in oil line
Metering oil pump malfunction
• Leakage or clogging in oil pipe
• Leakage or clogging in oil nozzle
Engine overheating
• Spark leakage from high-tension leads
Spark plug malfunction
• Ignition coil malfunction
• Immobilizer system and/or circuit malfunction
• Immobilizer system operates properly (Key is not registered.)
•
No battery power supply to PCM
• Open PCM GND or vehicle body GND
• Air cleaner restriction
• Air leakage from intake-air system
•Vacuum leakage
• Improper operation of drive-by-wire control system
• Drive-by-wire control system operates in fail-safe mode (abnormal accelerator
position and TP signal to PCM)
Poor fuel quality
• Open or short circuit in fuel pump body and related wiring harness
• Inadequate fuel pressure
•Fuel pump relay malfunction (stuck open)
• Fuel pump mechanical malfunction
• Pressure regulator (integrated in fuel pump unit) malfunction
• Fuel injector malfunction (leakage, clogging, improper injection amount)
• Open or short in fuel injector control signal circuit
•\ Purge solenoid valve malfunction (stuck open)
• Restriction in exhaust system
•Disconnected electrical connector
•No signal from eccentric shaft position sensor, related wiring harness or incorrect
•
installation
Improper air/fuel ratio control at starting (abnormal ECT signal to PCM)
APP sensor malfunction (de-chock control operating due to abnormal accelerator
position signal to PCM)
Low engine compression
•
Engine internal malfunction
Abnormal engine oil condition (viscosity, deterioration)
Low oil pressure
Excessive fuel pressure
Air mixed in oil line
Metering oil pump malfunction
• Leakage or clogging in oil pipe
• Leakage or clogging in oil nozzle
Engine overheating
• Spark leakage from high-tension leads
Spark plug malfunction
• Ignition coil malfunction
• Immobilizer system and/or circuit malfunction
• Immobilizer system operates properly (Key is not registered.)
•
12-12-2008, 03:34 AM
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Well my car is now alive!!!
The first thing I did was test spark and it was perfect. Then I decided to remove the upper intake manifold and blow out all the fuel that was in the solenoid. I am shocked how much fuel was in the sucker.
I put the intake back together and tried to start the car. BINGO!!! I then replaced the OEM coils with the BHR coils and its running perfectly. Woot!!
I wanna personally thank everyone that helped me out.
The first thing I did was test spark and it was perfect. Then I decided to remove the upper intake manifold and blow out all the fuel that was in the solenoid. I am shocked how much fuel was in the sucker.
I put the intake back together and tried to start the car. BINGO!!! I then replaced the OEM coils with the BHR coils and its running perfectly. Woot!!
I wanna personally thank everyone that helped me out.
12-12-2008, 06:58 AM
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Well my car is now alive!!!
The first thing I did was test spark and it was perfect. Then I decided to remove the upper intake manifold and blow out all the fuel that was in the solenoid. I am shocked how much fuel was in the sucker.
I put the intake back together and tried to start the car. BINGO!!! I then replaced the OEM coils with the BHR coils and its running perfectly. Woot!!
I wanna personally thank everyone that helped me out.
The first thing I did was test spark and it was perfect. Then I decided to remove the upper intake manifold and blow out all the fuel that was in the solenoid. I am shocked how much fuel was in the sucker.
I put the intake back together and tried to start the car. BINGO!!! I then replaced the OEM coils with the BHR coils and its running perfectly. Woot!!
I wanna personally thank everyone that helped me out.
