Borla Cat-back Exhaust Info
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Roared by an SVT Cobra on the way home tonight (red line in 2nd - man does the Borla make the rotary sing or what!). Two younger guys (you can imagine the stereotype) -- they were making a turn. Next thing I know they make a quick lane change and come up next to me at the light with big smiles on their faces and say "man that thing sounds sweet!" :D Well we took off at the light and he got about 1.5 car lengths on me but then couldn't pull away any further -- had fun for little while and then I had to turn. Can't wait for Canzoomers mod -- not expecting to be able to take the Cobra but it is fun to play now -- 35 more HP would be awesome -- probably suprise a few people -- 350Z cough cough.....
Anybody else with the Borla notice that the wheels are much easier to spin -- maybe its just me
I will say one thing -- I have had the Borla for 5 days now and have not turned on the stereo once -- I prefer the music I am making going down the road :D
Anybody else with the Borla notice that the wheels are much easier to spin -- maybe its just me
I will say one thing -- I have had the Borla for 5 days now and have not turned on the stereo once -- I prefer the music I am making going down the road :D
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RXhusker,
Sounds like your having fun with the new exhaust. Now the sound along with the car's looks are turning heads.
As the exhaust opens up it feels like it is putting out a little more power. I've recently seen the DSC light flashing as I shift into 3rd gear but that is more likely due to the new snow tires. Anyways, the recent abundence of throttle induced oversteer is fun at times. :p
Sounds like your having fun with the new exhaust. Now the sound along with the car's looks are turning heads.
As the exhaust opens up it feels like it is putting out a little more power. I've recently seen the DSC light flashing as I shift into 3rd gear but that is more likely due to the new snow tires. Anyways, the recent abundence of throttle induced oversteer is fun at times. :p
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I ordered the Borla exhaust last friday from VividRacing and it arrived yesterday. Everything that has been said on this thread is absolutely true. YOU HAVE TO BUY ONE!!!! This exhaust is the best out there. I have heard all of the sound bytes and didnt like them until I heard the Borla.
The horsepower increase is noticable above 5,500 I think. It's much more free revving like everyone has been saying. I think you can even notice some more torque as well.... What I like about this exhaust the best though is the sound. It's not overboard at all and the best thing is that it just accentuates the sound of the sweet rotary.. (what I was looking for) So all in all.. I would totally recommend this exhaust :D
The horsepower increase is noticable above 5,500 I think. It's much more free revving like everyone has been saying. I think you can even notice some more torque as well.... What I like about this exhaust the best though is the sound. It's not overboard at all and the best thing is that it just accentuates the sound of the sweet rotary.. (what I was looking for) So all in all.. I would totally recommend this exhaust :D
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Originally posted by mikeb
dealer must prove that aftermarket exhaust is causing whatever the problem may be to void warranty
dealer must prove that aftermarket exhaust is causing whatever the problem may be to void warranty
1. The dealer can just refuse you work on your car at any point, it has nothing to do with warranty, as they are independent of Mazda.
2. Some manufacturers are denying warranty claims based on changing the drivability of the car (this is Subaru, with a court case to back their lame claims, I have yet to hear one from Mazda).
3. A dealer wants to make money with warranty work, but if there's high failures and Mazda USA steps in, then we could see similar issues. Let's just hope that your dealer works with ya
Mike is referring to the magnusson-moss act, but there are many many loopholes. You can't just come in with a blown engine with crazy aftermarket mods and DEMAND a new engine. But if a coil pack goes south, how can they prove that your new exhaust actually caused the problem?
Proceed carefully grasshopper!!
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I have a question concerning the removal of the stock exhaust. Keep in mind that I am no mechanic, but the part of the exhaust that you have to remove, does that have to be cut or torched or is it clamped together? I guess what I'm trying to find out is if there is any cutting, torching or welding involved. I thought I read somewhere that there was no welding involved. It was all clamps and hangers.
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The Borla exhaust bolts on directly behind the stock resonator, and no welding or cutting is needed. The only thing you might have to do is bend the hanger closest to the differential... one user reported that it was too close, and was rattling. But no one else has had that problem that I've heard about, so it's not likely that you'll have to do that either.
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Just ordered the Borla exhaust from John @ socalmotorsports.. can't wait to get it.. hopefully i'll get to have fun with it before the dreadful snow season starts.. hehehe
so where's the flaming video clips? c'mon..
so where's the flaming video clips? c'mon..
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Originally posted by flipstream
Just ordered the Borla exhaust from John @ socalmotorsports.. can't wait to get it.. hopefully i'll get to have fun with it before the dreadful snow season starts.. hehehe
so where's the flaming video clips? c'mon..
Just ordered the Borla exhaust from John @ socalmotorsports.. can't wait to get it.. hopefully i'll get to have fun with it before the dreadful snow season starts.. hehehe
so where's the flaming video clips? c'mon..
flames, Flames, FLAMES.... :D
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Originally posted by brothervoodoo
So far, has everyone installed their own exhaust? What would be the average cost to get someone to do it for you.
So far, has everyone installed their own exhaust? What would be the average cost to get someone to do it for you.
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i realize that everyone is jumping on the borla bandwagon b/c it is cheap, adds performance, and looks/sound AWESOME.
however, remember that racing beat is working ferveriously on new, high performance products for the RX-8. i have their full exhaust system on my FC RX-7 TII, and i must say, it is one of the best exhaust systems money can buy. best performance, best looks, and nice mature sound.
i'm sure they will do the same for the RX-8. also, b/c racing beat has tuned several mazda vehicles in the past for mazda (mazdaspeed protege, miata), mazda sells the products FROM the dealer. as a result, your warrenty wont be voided.
i would guess the racing beat RX-8 muffler will be around $400-500, and sould great.
here is a link for their lastest update on tuning info: http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda4.htm
here is a pic of their prototype muffler for the 8:
however, remember that racing beat is working ferveriously on new, high performance products for the RX-8. i have their full exhaust system on my FC RX-7 TII, and i must say, it is one of the best exhaust systems money can buy. best performance, best looks, and nice mature sound.
i'm sure they will do the same for the RX-8. also, b/c racing beat has tuned several mazda vehicles in the past for mazda (mazdaspeed protege, miata), mazda sells the products FROM the dealer. as a result, your warrenty wont be voided.
i would guess the racing beat RX-8 muffler will be around $400-500, and sould great.
here is a link for their lastest update on tuning info: http://www.racingbeat.com/FRmazda4.htm
here is a pic of their prototype muffler for the 8:
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The Racing Beat setup looks top notch and I'm sure that they will get some decent performance gains.
As more and more exhausts become available it would be cool to do a shoot out to see which provides the best: performance, sound, quality, and bang for the buck. Maybe VividRacing will do a little bit of this on their project car.
As more and more exhausts become available it would be cool to do a shoot out to see which provides the best: performance, sound, quality, and bang for the buck. Maybe VividRacing will do a little bit of this on their project car.
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Welp, I ordered their front sway bar a couple days ago. Was hoping to get it before tomorrows autocross, but oh well. It'll be in for next time.
Maybe I'll even have enough for an exhaust when RB has theirs out :D
Maybe I'll even have enough for an exhaust when RB has theirs out :D
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Originally posted by RXhusker
I got a quote for $50 to have it done at a small shop close to my office. That said -- I decided to do it myself...
I got a quote for $50 to have it done at a small shop close to my office. That said -- I decided to do it myself...
2nd question: What did you guys do with the old exhaust (hang on to it)?
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Originally posted by brothervoodoo
2nd question: What did you guys do with the old exhaust (hang on to it)?
2nd question: What did you guys do with the old exhaust (hang on to it)?
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Originally posted by tpryor
My old exhaust, and the original front sway bar are stacked next to the wheels/Hoosiers (soon to be two sets) in my garage. Didn't know what else to do with them.
My old exhaust, and the original front sway bar are stacked next to the wheels/Hoosiers (soon to be two sets) in my garage. Didn't know what else to do with them.
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At the request of many I have gone out of my way to try to capture the flaming beast on camera. Let's just say that a picture doesn't do it justice and if someone is willing to host a 3.6 MB video file you can see what I mean.
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Originally posted by brothervoodoo
RXhusker, Thanks for the insight and info. $50 sounds extremely reasonable and if I could find someone at that price I probably would let them do it. I'm not setup and/or have the space to dismantle my 8.
2nd question: What did you guys do with the old exhaust (hang on to it)?
RXhusker, Thanks for the insight and info. $50 sounds extremely reasonable and if I could find someone at that price I probably would let them do it. I'm not setup and/or have the space to dismantle my 8.
2nd question: What did you guys do with the old exhaust (hang on to it)?
All I needed was a set of ramps ($20 at WalMart) and about 6' of space behind the 8 to move around.