BHR Ignition Kit Doesn't Work!!
04-18-2009, 11:30 PM
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Though mine work just fine I'm interested to hear what the issue is. I'm curious if it has something to do with my car not starting on the 1st crank when warm. I also have an AP...so I will stay tuned!
Thanks for being up front about the issue, BHR. I hope this doesn't hurt the business.
Thanks for being up front about the issue, BHR. I hope this doesn't hurt the business.
04-19-2009, 01:08 AM
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As I mentioned in my first post regarding "Gamma-testing"; one of the interesting things I have learned recently was just how many people installed the BHR Ignition System in the veiled hopes that it would "cure" or "help" solve problems that were completely unrelated to the ignition system. Low compression, weak batteries, slow starter speed, etc. are not symptoms that can be alleviated with a "hotter" or better spark no matter WHICH ignition system one is installing. Whereas installing a nitrous system on a weak performing engine will still result in a weak performing engine, installing an H.O. ignition system is not going to result in anything other than a weak engine with a really cool ignition system on it.
In several cases (and this concept happens with almost every product we vendors sell and the main reason vendors in this industry become jaded, when they do), those who KNEW their engines were not in the best of condition still sent me panicked PMs insisting that the coils were flawed, damaged, or inoperable and it was somehow the fault of the coil kit that their problems were not alleviated. Of course, the pre-existing conditions were never mentioned to me until several troubleshooting attempts on my part, many PMs back-and-forth, and many sleepless nights with concern for my customers' situations and BHR's reputation. I understand that the object about which we consumers know the least, in this case electrical components, is usually the one we are first to blame when things go awry. Electrical stuff is still a mystery to 99% of people in the world. Using re-flash tools and tuning software runs a pretty close second.
Last edited by Charles R. Hill; 04-19-2009 at 01:23 AM.
04-19-2009, 10:36 AM
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Ray, will this delay the shipment of the coils which were going out this Monday and should we hold off on installing them when we get them? I'm still currently NA, but plan to be boosted by next month.
04-19-2009, 10:48 AM
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Maybe This Will Help....
In having the issues arise with the coil kit and investigating the situation we discovered the following;
1) N/A applications that are NOT using some sort of re-flash/EMS device are completely fine with the BHR kit as is.
2) Those who have a re-flash/EMS device (even while N/A) will be able to see some small additional gains and we will address this with each of you.
3) The seriously boosted engines (such as 7 PSI, manifold, or more) need this fix and should either exercise restraint or re-install the OEM coils until we contact you.
4) Nitrous users are in both groups 1 and 2 above.
5) GReddy Turbo Kit users are in group 2.
Many thanks to those who alerted us to this issue in the first place, most notably Nuke0907 and 05rex8.
I am probably going to get yelled at or several questions from people so PLEASE READ THE ABOVE CAREFULLY before you deluge me with PMs asking, "Which category am I in?"
1) N/A applications that are NOT using some sort of re-flash/EMS device are completely fine with the BHR kit as is.
2) Those who have a re-flash/EMS device (even while N/A) will be able to see some small additional gains and we will address this with each of you.
3) The seriously boosted engines (such as 7 PSI, manifold, or more) need this fix and should either exercise restraint or re-install the OEM coils until we contact you.
4) Nitrous users are in both groups 1 and 2 above.
5) GReddy Turbo Kit users are in group 2.
Many thanks to those who alerted us to this issue in the first place, most notably Nuke0907 and 05rex8.
I am probably going to get yelled at or several questions from people so PLEASE READ THE ABOVE CAREFULLY before you deluge me with PMs asking, "Which category am I in?"
Last edited by Charles R. Hill; 04-19-2009 at 10:51 AM.
04-19-2009, 10:53 AM
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Sweet deal. Glad BHR has found the answer. You got a huge pair of brass ones to step forward and say you made a mistake. I respect that, especially when you've got a fix for it too. Good work Charles.
This isn't a case of coil dwell timing again is it?
This isn't a case of coil dwell timing again is it?
04-19-2009, 11:06 AM
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The dwell characteristics are a bit different between the LS2 and Yukon coils. Even so, we still feel the Yukon coils are "The Bomb" when all things are considered. If I thought another coil was a superior choice (and I had some really cool ideas on what to do) I would have instituted changes by now and recalled each and every BHR Ignition System in the process. When the dwell is adjusted properly the Yukon coils are every bit as powerful as we have always said and we will stand behind these Bad Boys, 100%.
04-19-2009, 11:09 AM
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EVERYONE, makes mistakes. Those who learn from them are wise, and those who take responsibility for them are honored. You my friend, are both.
04-19-2009, 11:13 AM
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/\ Good, was wondering if there was going to be a shipment issue...
You can't calll it a total "****-UP", as it does work, and works well and it won't blow your engine, so that's a plus side.
Oh and good job on taking responsibility man... proves you have some pretty big ***** to own up.
You can't calll it a total "****-UP", as it does work, and works well and it won't blow your engine, so that's a plus side.
Oh and good job on taking responsibility man... proves you have some pretty big ***** to own up.