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Old 10-27-2008, 01:29 AM
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mf'er AP PULLEYS....hmmmm
i was deciding which ones out of all of them....
do the pulleys void warranty?
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My opinion; Drop in some bigger injectors, get a Cobb Accessport, and have it dyno-tuned. I think you could crank out a good bit more power. More fuel + More Air = More Power. Anybody see why that wouldn't work? You might want to get a better intake and reduce the exhaust restriction with a high flow cat or a race pipe.

The injectors are not so expensive really. What I just did with mine, but it is turbocharged, is to drop in two 550cc RC injectors in the secondaries, and put the 380cc injectors into both primary ports. My injectors cost about $89 each. You'll need to pull the upper intake to swap them. Not such a big deal I think.

From the factory, on MT model, for each rotor there is one 290cc, and two 380cc injectors. By going with the config I'm talking about, it is about a 20% increase in fuel capacity.
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Originally Posted by joepatterson
My opinion; Drop in some bigger injectors, get a Cobb Accessport, and have it dyno-tuned. I think you could crank out a good bit more power. More fuel + More Air = More Power. Anybody see why that wouldn't work? You might want to get a better intake and reduce the exhaust restriction with a high flow cat or a race pipe.

The injectors are not so expensive really. What I just did with mine, but it is turbocharged, is to drop in two 550cc RC injectors in the secondaries, and put the 380cc injectors into both primary ports. My injectors cost about $89 each. You'll need to pull the upper intake to swap them. Not such a big deal I think.

From the factory, on MT model, for each rotor there is one 290cc, and two 380cc injectors. By going with the config I'm talking about, it is about a 20% increase in fuel capacity.
bigger injectors will not change hp.. unless you add more air, and the stock injectors run out of cycle..

that is not going to happen na.

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stupid question if you go catless what do you do with the o2 sensors?
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Haha wow love how whenever I ask a question in a thread it goes silent. yay...

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Originally Posted by ltgmaddog
stupid question if you go catless what do you do with the o2 sensors?
Ok I thought about it, I guess you would place the o2 sensors into the new made piping but would the engine automatically make up for the extra outflow? Currently I believe I blew maybe both my o2 sensors due to leaded gas, wasn't my fault (my boss gave me free gas from the raceway). So if I delete the Cats what can I do to save $450+$120 on buying new sensors and maybe gaining more performance or tuning capabilities????

I was reviewing the Cobb AccessPort will this allow manual incremental adjustments to the Air/fuel mixture, or can you only choose from the allotted flashes already pre-made?

Are there any other choices?
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keep it in the cat so you dont have to put it back in if you ever have to swap the cat back in.
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Originally Posted by ltgmaddog
Ok I thought about it, I guess you would place the o2 sensors into the new made piping but would the engine automatically make up for the extra outflow? Currently I believe I blew maybe both my o2 sensors due to leaded gas, wasn't my fault (my boss gave me free gas from the raceway). So if I delete the Cats what can I do to save $450+$120 on buying new sensors and maybe gaining more performance or tuning capabilities????

I was reviewing the Cobb AccessPort will this allow manual incremental adjustments to the Air/fuel mixture, or can you only choose from the allotted flashes already pre-made?

Are there any other choices?
you could get a f'in sweet Ebay chip
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Originally Posted by greg985
you could get a f'in sweet Ebay chip
I like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/25HP-...mZ110303136051

Fully adjustable, serious stuff.

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Originally Posted by IXC-RX8
fujita 4.77 is a good mod for N/A
Changes torque to the wheels and will improve acceleration but does not change hp.

OP there is already a ton of info. that answers this question out there...

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Intake...

It seems like there's a wide variety of opinions on the benefit of CAI, exhaust and mid-pipe. These range from being seen as beneficial upgrades to being bling.

The MM Cobb AccessPort seems so widely advocated for hp boost that I have one on the way. If nothing else it gives an inexpensive way to check and modify the tune of the engine.

Right now I'd say the CAI and exhaust are lower on my list.
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
I like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/25HP-...mZ110303136051

Fully adjustable, serious stuff.
ahhh interesting thanks.

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Originally Posted by Ranx0R0X
It seems like there's a wide variety of opinions on the benefit of CAI, exhaust and mid-pipe. These range from being seen as beneficial upgrades to being bling.

The MM Cobb AccessPort seems so widely advocated for hp boost that I have one on the way. If nothing else it gives an inexpensive way to check and modify the tune of the engine.

Right now I'd say the CAI and exhaust are lower on my list.
midpipe and exhaust will reduce the backpressure, given that they are well designed
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Its Easy

Sell the car

buy another car hmm .. maybe a 350z ?

BAM ! isnt that easy ?
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
I like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/25HP-...mZ110303136051

Fully adjustable, serious stuff.
MUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA ! LOL ! LMAO ! ROFL !!!!!!

WOW ... I mean WOW !

THAT DUDE ACTUALLY SPENT DA TIME TO MAKE THAT EBAY LISTING ... HOLY CRAP !

THATS SOME SERIOUS SHITZ y0 !!!
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omg, that Dyno-Boost chips is EPIC!
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yes... amazing quality... funny thing is I know someone around here that ordered one for his corolla S. Haven't heard from him since he "installed" it. hahahahaha
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Originally Posted by alz0rz
I like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/25HP-...mZ110303136051

Fully adjustable, serious stuff.
thats freakin awsome!! With this I can make my car run even richer. More fuel must be a good thing. Now if I can just save enough money and get that tubronator for $34.95 I'll finally be boosted.
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pshhhh. you better save up more than 34.95. You know you can stack turbonators too right?!?!? there's no limit to the power you can have!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by RedefineRX8
pshhhh. you better save up more than 34.95. You know you can stack turbonators too right?!?!? there's no limit to the power you can have!!!!!!!!!!!!
I ALREADY POSTED THIS TOPIC. 600hp/tq with beer **** & electricsuperchargednawz.
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That adjustable +25 hp device looks amazing, I wonder if it would be compatible with my HHO Hydrogen Fuel Cell kit that I also got off ebay.
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get an access port, and catless midpipe, 12.7 AFR

should get there, or drop in a bridgeport :D
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NO more worries guys I'm working on a top secret power adder coming to ebay. I'll go ahead and give you a little insight as to what your looking for. It's called the hydronawzsupergogeterdonethingy. I know I know something with that many vowels has to give 50+ whp but even better than that it gives up the biggest boom/bang for the buck you've ever seen. Basically I'm going to atomize the nawz before it gets into to combustion chamber therfore giving you and extra power stroke. I promise the biggest boom you'll ever get out of your motor.

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Originally Posted by swoope
bigger injectors will not change hp.. unless you add more air, and the stock injectors run out of cycle..

that is not going to happen na.

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Well, I guess I'm still thinking of the good ol' days when I had my 69 Z-28 and dropping a bigger carb on it and tuning it up would get some more power. On the other hand, the compression ratio was really high on it.

Good effort I guess.
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Originally Posted by joepatterson
Well, I guess I'm still thinking of the good ol' days when I had my 69 Z-28 and dropping a bigger carb on it and tuning it up would get some more power. On the other hand, the compression ratio was really high on it.

Good effort I guess.
ok,

you did not drop some big injector into a z28..... btw, i would bet the rx8 comp ratio is about the same as the 69 small block chevy..

carb does not = injector. and the 60s cars did not have an ecu. much less a ecu as knowledgeable as ours..

btw,, i cant tell you how many sb chevys i have built..

details are important... hey, but what do i know..


beers :beers:

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