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Old 11-09-2005, 03:15 PM
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Something doesn't agree with the turbo kit when running with the 'R' flash if you ask me. I'm going to take the kit off for a while and see what the problem is.
Old 11-09-2005, 03:54 PM
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Even without the turbo, I had a rougher idle, and less power. R must stand for "rob" us of a flash we like. N was the best imo.
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BTW & OT - cleaning the MAF last night made a significant improvement to my idle.
I didn't really think it was all that rough until I sprayed it down with plastic-compatible contact cleaner.
There was a fine coating of oily dust on the air temp sender and the tube leading into the MAF element that came right off with the cleaner.
I suggest it highly to those with a rough or uneven idle.
Old 11-09-2005, 04:49 PM
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Getting R flash was terrible - Question - Would E manage tuning help problem encountered now at over 5k - the car runs very rich, not even in turbo and A/F gauge is buried below 11. Also sometimes the car stalls at hard or medium hard stop. Car is also popping much more when I let off the throttle - is very loud and annoying.
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man if i ever got turbo and i got some oil leak...man that $#!t's gonna bugg the hell outa be
Old 11-09-2005, 08:20 PM
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Blew my engine with the 'R' flash, GReddy kit, & eManage.

Form your own conclusions.

P.S. No, I do not over-rev & it was not lean up top, or shouldn't have been, since I was running the stock eManage map & Benny said it was good for 7 psi. The engine sh*t itself while at part throttle.

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OUCH...maybe fuel injectors were pushed to its limits? or over reving?
Old 11-09-2005, 10:16 PM
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The maps that the kit uses are made for the M flash. Some have said that the R is leaner than the M. So, you'd need to tune - starting with a richer map. I suppose there also might be some other changes like when the ECU goes into open-loop. That would be the real kicker. That would also explain why GReddy is testing a new dongle, rather than a new map for the R flash. You could also get lean conditions if the R used the primaries and secondaries with different emphasis than the M. The map that comes with the kit is setup for a specific ECU flash. Since its a piggyback ECU, you are taking chances when you change the map that its tuned for.
Old 11-09-2005, 11:06 PM
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I don't understand... why would anyone get the R flash and not re-tune.

It's common sense. your base has changed and you have no idea how the car is running unless you tune it.
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I know a lot of dealerships don't ask "do you want our latest flash?". So if someone were to bring their car in to get some type of recall or warranty work, they are going to flash it anyway. Perhaps that is what is going on.
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wow, maybe i need to get my car reflashed lol i dont have a turbo kit, but the last time i took my car in was for the recall work n that was about 5 k miles ago, i barely hit 10k miles today, so i might be runnin the original flash or an early flash but i kinda noticed that my gas milage on city hit the ****, im gettin ok on highway though, about 230-250 dependin on speed......
Old 11-10-2005, 12:58 AM
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My engine blew a 'o' ring this past week with the 'r' flash. I dont think it had anything to do with the turbo or anything else but the dealer said they'd fix it.
Old 11-10-2005, 07:38 AM
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So do you need a whole new engine? How did you get your dealer to pay for that since you have the turbo? I can't believe they didn't blame it on that. That really sucks though, wow, seems like more and more people with the Greddy kit are blowing motors. Not good.
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He didn't blow a motor. An o ring went out. Very different. So far, I count 3 blown motors. One of them was with the R flash. One of them was by some jokers with a dyno who were being paid to tune it, but didn't even know how to load maps to the emanage. I don't plan on encountering either of these situations.
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I was regretting the turbo kit purchase there for awhile with all the issues I was having.

I've almost got my Greddy running good. The interceptor has fixed alot of my issues....
- rough idle
- boost would raise to 6psi then drop to 3psi at high rpms
- backfiring
- hesitation when going into boost

Here's a short video clip of my boost levels with the Interceptor. This is with it not tuned (slightly rich, 10.5 at WOT). I've made an appt for next Friday to get it tuned and then hopefully make it out to the dragstrip soon after.
More clips to come.
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would emanage ultimate fix most of the issues as well?
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Originally Posted by FLybOi drE
would emanage ultimate fix most of the issues as well?
If it only worked properly.
We're waiting on a series of hardware and firmware updates to address several issues with the Ultimate, including injector duty cycle and ignition phasing.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
I concurr on the "R" flash issue. Nothing but problems at the moment.
I disconnected the buss wires on my OBD port so that the dealer can't flash mine while in for other things (foggy tail light, creaky sun roof).
Which wires are these on the OBD port? It's not that I don't trust my dealer not to flash the car without asking when I go in for the gas tank recall, but I don't trust my dealer not to flash the car without asking when I go in for the gas tank recall.
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Originally Posted by MazdaManiac
If it only worked properly.
We're waiting on a series of hardware and firmware updates to address several issues with the Ultimate, including injector duty cycle and ignition phasing.
so pretty much the ultimate sucks huh...
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Originally Posted by ScudRunner
Which wires are these on the OBD port? It's not that I don't trust my dealer not to flash the car without asking when I go in for the gas tank recall, but I don't trust my dealer not to flash the car without asking when I go in for the gas tank recall.
LOL, what are you really trying to say?
Old 11-11-2005, 07:21 PM
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Skudrunner,
Since the Interceptor-X does not use any of the factory fuel or ignition tables to run the engine, the dealer flashes that will alter the factory maps WILL NOT AFFECT THE WAY YOUR CAR RUNS!
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Originally Posted by FLybOi drE
so pretty much the ultimate sucks huh...
No. Actually, for the cars the it is properly running on, it is awesome.
The RX-8 (probably for the same sort of reasons that everything else complicated), just doesn't have a standard fuel injector control pulse or ignition pulse.
On a box like the Ultimate, which acts as much like a stand-alone as any piggyback possibly could, full compatibility with the wave form and duty cycle of the control pulses is essential.
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Originally Posted by MazsportScott
Skudrunner,
Since the Interceptor-X does not use any of the factory fuel or ignition tables to run the engine, the dealer flashes that will alter the factory maps WILL NOT AFFECT THE WAY YOUR CAR RUNS!
Scott,

I know; that's one of the things I love about the product. I was just taking the opportunity to take a shot at a dealer; plus, it wouldn't surprise me if the R Flash did something really stupid, like make the air condition even weaker than it already is.
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I found that the switch from cold to hot wasn't as easy as it should've been with the 'r' flash. It will stay cold even after being turned to the hot no matter how long the cars been running. I always had to find a certain combo of moving the ***** back and forth and turning the a/c on and off. It's wierd and doesn't happen all the time but it still bugs the crap out of me.
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^that is wierd.....i don't ever have that problem


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